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Cake day: November 10th, 2023

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  • That’s why I’m a proponent of a a truly federated system where for any community you would be able to choose which are the people in charge of moderating/curating your feed.

    You need to be able to criticize moderators, and moderators need to be able to accept criticism, both good and bad. Some of those bans really speak towards really insecure moderation. I’m also not a fan of them being able to get complete anonymity while doing so. What usually happens is the problems is a bad apple within the mod team but the rest will still get defensive regardless when the only one you can blame is the entire group, it’s group psychology 101.

    Even “ACAB” cops all have an ID number that can identify them, and on lemmy it’s even easier to create an alt. Heck, if you go over to their Matrix chat and talk to lemmy heads, they don’t consider unfair abusive lemmy bans a big deal because “its ok if people are forced to create a new alt, if they aren’t culpable they won’t get banned again”. Literally fucking shit logic, specially considering if a ban was actually justified you would not want to lose track of who that person is masquerading as.

    The same reddit double standard is here, and I see that the modlog doesn’t even seem to be displaying who the particular admin or mod who performed the action was anymore while still providing only the most minimal explanation with no chance for individual users to contest it. Seriously, all it took was for mods to create a mod alias, but even that was too much?

    People left Reddit because of the API problem, but the problem was there long before. Subreddits like modsbeingdicks and others got banned even though their moderation did a top notch job at making sure personally identifiable information was removed from posts and comments in comparison to other subreddits that still remain. The future of Lemmy may very well be limited to becoming a poor man’s Reddit. The Stanford prison experiment, read up on it, and if you find it too uncomfortable, jump on the bandwagon of trying to find something to nitpick about the study as it has become customary to do so, doesn’t change how relatable it is.




  • If we lived in a reasonable world, any major social network would be firewalled and closed off while they got fined to oblivion after this extreme display of fostering of misogyny. Elon Musk is an argument for socialism, specifically the one that drags him into a jail cell and appropriates the wealth he would have misused for society. Neither SpaceX nor Tesla really needs his parasitic presence any longer, and I doubt this one trick pony could be successfully steal another revolutionary venture to finance into.


  • What do you care? You blame Palestinians for a government they haven’t been able to vote against since 2005, and want to equate them all to Hamas in regions that Hamas doesn’t even rule in. You say there is no apartheid. You constantly equate “left” to Nazis. Which makes it all the more telling when you deny such demonstrably and verifiably true facts because of a news source you want to demonize. For someone who joins a furry instance, all of your comment history is dedicated to headbutting yourself against anything that even remotely might be amicable to Palestinians with all of your participation being limited to just World News and politics for this. Just be honest, you support exterminating Palestinians from Israel, because it’s rather straightforward you do.

    yeah totally a reliable source…




  • It doesn’t surprise me. I live in a “first past the post” country that forces a two-party system and penalizes voting your conscience unless it aligns with one of those parties. While there may be flaws in Ranked Choice Voting that could emerge in fringe cases, it is so obviously superior to our current system that it is hard for me to worry about the nuance of how it might not be 100% perfect 100% all of the time. Any (democratic) system is better than what we have now, even if it involves come bot casually stealing comments. 🙃






  • If those are your examples, then you are misunderstanding my proposition. Some of the reasons you suggest to downvote are not good reasons to me, but that’s point, everyone has their own criteria and their own preferences for the comments they would like to be reading over others. By denying them the ability to choose, you are imposing an arbitrary and fallible karma system. Hiding it really doesn’t fix it, you are denying the alternative because you feel the absolute worst case will occur. Yet right now it is possible, and does not happen.


  • So does Israel. Israel receives checks for weapons and armaments they can resell, Ukraine receives loans along with the associated debt. It’s a regional power thing for the US, treat certain friendly countries at strategic hotspots in such a way that they hold key industries or resources others have to rely on, creating a situation of mutual dependence and giving an incentive for other countries to also support them. Ukraine has Europe and NATO right beside it, so it’s much less on the priority list for the US.

    It also creates a bunch of problems, specially when it involves a country that’s borderline religious neocolonialism, and doesn’t work that well against large world and regional powers that are working together like China, Russia, or even Iran.

    But Ukraine really does deserve better.



  • I know that’s probably why you do, like I said, people feel really insecure about it. I don’t really respect irrational insecurity though. Your comment history could also lead to witch hunts, yet no worries there… If it does need to be handled, it should be done by automatically deleting your old up/downvotes and comments. But no one is asking for that with comments either… They only take in issue because they don’t want to be held accountable to their votes, even if the probability is practically zero and extremely exceptional.

    If you really don’t want to explain why you are downvoting, I really don’t think people should be downvoting. I very rarely downvote, and there are plenty of comments I neither upvote or downvote simply because not everything should be rated nor am I capable of doing so. It is toxic.

    You already have a system where people with alts and moderation privileges decide what you see and don’t see, this will happen regardless with information saturation. What I want to have is putting that in the hands of the users. Whether it will be good or bad will depend on the users, and because it would be complementary, you could still accept the traditional or default method. More choice is not bad, it is the users that make it bad, and in this case, they would make it bad only for themselves. But it would also be easy to work this system into something like https://ground.news , where as with a homogeneous imposition you don’t have a choice nor even an idea of what is being censored if you don’t go out of your way to find out. If it’s completely transparent, you could even look through the eye of another user’s moderation settings to see the sort of content they are getting.

    Not sure where you are pulling the “new users get filtered out as untrustworthy”, the system I’m proposing would do not such thing. This seems more like a projected insecurity without specific examples that can be countered.

    Without a karma system, the problem then goes back to which comments show up first and which might not show up at all. That’s just a traditional forum thread, where the newest comments do.


  • That would be an argument to support alts natively in regards to the sub and instances you are participating in, and isn’t that compromising as it can already be checked.

    I don’t even think generally anyone even tries to reveal any personally identifiable details to social network account on reddit let alone lemmy. Maybe influencers and people seeking recognition, but they are going to be using alts anyway.

    Forget downvotes, if you are anyone of note and people know your username, they are going to spend hours searching through your comment history, and that’s going to be far more incriminating than an upvote or a downvote.