Your response to me saying that adding fluoride is best until the US has complete and free dental healthcare was to mention two European countries with with better healthcare than the US. So I’ll repeat myself since you can’t read:

So you agree it’s better to add it to the water until literally every person in the US has health/dental care and free fluoride treatments?

If you live in the US then it should be obvious what will provide the best outcomes, since those other measures aren’t in fucking place here.

Putting a poison

It’s not a poison, this type of bullshit fear-mongering just highlights how hollow your arguments are. You’re arguing that the delivery method of fluoride is wrong, and then you call it a poison. Stop taking cues from anti-vaxxers.

It may be a necessary evil

It’s not an evil, just because there’s a hypothetical better way doesn’t mean this way is bad. It provably doesn’t have worse outcomes! How the fuck can it be evil? All your links just show it has “negligible effects” if fluoride is provided another way, none of them show negative effects.

And yes, I don’t know any kids who actually are willing to drink tap water anymore

Than you either don’t live in America or you live in a much more well-off area then me. Over half of Americans drink tap water, and more than that cook with the water.

brita, or filtered these days

Brita and other filters don’t remove fluoride from water, so drinking filtered tap water doesn’t affect adding fluoride to the water.

Yes, Kids these days.

Lol what a great discussion and not just arguing about “how you feel”

How much TAP water do kids drink?

What the actual fuck is your point here? All of my friends’ kids drink mostly from the tap, or make food with water from the tap. Do you think children are only drinking cans of soda and Lunchables??

With the rise of Fluoride in toothpaste the differences are negligible

Literally not true, studies still show better outcomes for cities that add fluoride. A Canadian province that doesn’t add fluoride has more cavities and issues than a neighboring province that does.

The mild fluorosis that is “risked” by adding fluoride is such a mild condition compared to teeth loss, weaker adult teeth, and cavities while growing up.

I am willing to look at and understand current studies and evidence

Being willing to understand doesn’t magically convey the ability to understand. You sound like nurses that become anti-vax and think they know more about medicine since they had to memorize unrelated facts and know how to inject a needle.

I said it was a municipality issue, not a federal issue

It already is, fluoridization is not federally mandated. RFK is talking about federally banning it.

a municipality may find it necessary to fluoridate their water if dental care and oral hygiene is unavailable due to various factors like poverty, remoteness, cost effectiveness etc. But in the end it would ALWAYS be better to prescribe the treatment in measured amounts, instead of adding it to the water.

So you agree it’s better to add it to the water until literally every person in the US has health/dental care and free fluoride treatments? I hope you’re arguing for those, too, instead of just whining about how some utopian alternative that we are nowhere near to having would be better.

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Just how much water do kids drink these days?

WTF kind of question/argument is this?

“Kids these days, amirite? They don’t drink any water but thank god they can be trusted to have good brushing habits!”

The latest studies show a rise in flourosis

Along with a decline in having teeth rot and fall out, damn what a tough choice.

a decline in effectiveness since the widespread use of fluoride toothpaste

That isn’t a decline in effectiveness you bozo.

It seems crazy to me to add a chemical to water that had no dose control

You realize we add literal chlorine to water, right? Not some scary chemical with “chloride blah blah blah” in the name, actual chlorine. It only seems crazy to you because you’re making an uninformed opinion based on your gut feeling instead of trusting experts and people who actually studied and work with water treatment plants.

You literally are disagreeing with decades of evidence that it helps populations and especially children, disagreeing with experts in the field, and agreeing with fucking RFK, Jr. Maybe take a second to pause and evaluate whether your initial, uneducated emotional response should have any fucking weight on this decision.

I think it’s stupid.

Literally why?? It’s one of the most effective things we can do for the vast majority of our population. And every expert thinks it’s a good idea. Some random bozo thinking it’s “stupid” is fucking stupid, but apparently you’re in good company with Kennedy here lol

The vast majority of Americans drink tap water.

If you can’t laugh at a joke then I swear by my pretty floral bonnet, I will end you.

Just fine is pushing it, we are capable but not particularly good.
We need specific plant parts grown on purpose to be consumable (fruit, nuts, …), or we need cooking.

And what wild animals can we eat raw and uncooked better than plants?

Humans aren’t carnivores, we’re omnivores and we can digest plants just fine

If we can’t eat it raw then I’d argue we didn’t evolve to eat it

Lol

Oh well that makes complete sense and isn’t about control at all!

/s

Isn’t Ramadan part of mainstream Islam?

I’m sorry, I took your ending question as a challenge towards the victimization of women, not as an attempt to get the other commenter to think about how men are treated differently.

My bad, I 100% agree with you.

“He tells it like it is!”

“Come on, he’s obviously just joking!”

Why don’t we see the same language used on victimised men?

Are men victimized systemically and threatened physically to the same extent women are? Feminists speaking up for women’s issues doesn’t preclude men from speaking up for men’s issues, but lo and behold, men don’t have the same issues as a population that women do, and it’s not feminists’ job to speak up for them anyway.

Edit: I misunderstood, see reply.

So yes, if you’re poor or working class in this country, it doesn’t matter much who we elect.

Says the person with a white male profile pic lol

I mean that’s simply because Muslims don’t have an effect on America’s policies or population for the most part. Any Abrahamic religion is problematic.

I’m not sure NOA is responsible for evacuation orders, IIRC they advise state and local governments on who should evacuate and it’s up to the local government to coordinate and reach out to their populations.