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it’s not because a product is not made in a industrial fashion that it’s de facto good, sustainable or eco friendly. it’s like calling natural stuff better than chemical stuff. it’s just a common bias.

you can’t get meat without giving a lot of proteins to an animal. at the end if you end up eating this protein instead of giving it to the animal to grow tissue you always will win in efficiency.

some will argue that we can’t eat grass. that’s right we can’t. but with all things considered if we eat proteins from plants we can digest, the balance will always be positive, regarding CO2 emissions, natural ressources being wasted like soil and water, and naturally the cruelty.

some will argue that prairies are stocking CO2. yes they are, but the cattle growing on them will produce more.

some will argue that eating soy will give you boobs. I’m sorry but it won’t. too bad if it’s boobs you were looking for.

etc etc. the scientific literature is quite explicit on this matter. all that I know is that if we decided to switch to a total plant based alimentation right now, we would need a period of transition were cattle or fishing will still be needed in some specific countries with specific ecosystem.

of course, but in this situation it’s pretty simple. how do you act with the choice given.

no. the attitude that is not useful is to make up arguments to justify our choices.

we know the fact. we choose to act on them or not. and this is the same for a lot more topics than veganism.

don’t return the responsibility on the people who act to diminish suffering and waste of ressources. vegetarians like carnists contribute to keep the status quo. it’s not debatable.

you choose to live how you want - within the limit of the law - and it’s totally ok. but own your choices, you don’t need to justify them.

we all are full of contradiction, and it’s more than ok. but don’t make up stuff to make them ok. just accept them.

I totally understand your point of view and think that your perception is valid. If you try to analyse why you find them preachy and judgemental it could be interesting.

For example would find them so annoying if you agree with them? Is it the discourse that annoys you or the person? Is it your belief system being challenged that annoys you or the facts that are being stated?

It’s always intersting to understand why we feel that way when we are challenged, and veganism is one of a few topic that can create what we called in psychology reactance, an interesting topic.

Veganism is really different than religion tho, cause it is totally backed by science (regarding food production, waste issue, C02 and sentientism) and a logic construct.

they are great conversations about why people are so annoyed by vegans and most of the time it’s not because vegans are harassing or pushing their agenda, it’s more a question of how we perceive ourself when comparing ourself to others.

it’s due to cognitive dissonance.

this argument that non industrial cattle is sustainable is totally moot. please check the literature available.

human are omnivore, it’s a biological trait not a diet. Being omnivore doesn’t mean that you need to consume animal products, in the contrary, it means that you can avoid them and still strive, as opposed as carnivore.

own your choices, plain and simple. don’t blame other for taking action to reduce suffering, CO2 and waste of ressources.

the fact that you label some vegan as purist says more about your own conflicts that the way vegan choose to live. vegan purist is a nonsense. you are either vegan or not.

you choose what you consume, but don’t put the blame on vegan. for me being vegetarian or carnist is not so different. vegetarian are still supporting the status quo and it’s fair to state this fact.

once again it’s your choice. own it.

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Apple Music pays two time what Spotify does. Easy pick between the two.

absolutely

https://ourworldindata.org/environmental-impacts-of-food

https://journals.plos.org/climate/article?id=10.1371/journal.pclm.0000010

cattle.

I’ve read that it doesn’t have e2ee in its specs. Google has a proprietary tweak enabling it but Apple will stick to RSC specs.

Let’s hope that RSC gets e2ee asap.

https://mastodon.social/@daringfireball/111421851053569842

I’m always amazed about how we use the term “humanly” to express kindness. doesn’t seems to fit the actual behaviour of the species indeed.

I guess if you enable it on your device you are safe, but if your content is on another device that doesn’t enable it (it’s an opt in option), your content will be available.

I don’t want to appear more pedantic than I am, but in my book capitalism is all about how to generate and accumulate money from propriety. so it would have been a better move to milk third party app, than to kill them with unrealistic price. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

I don’t like the idea to blame a system instead of the people directly responsible for this decision at Reddit. it’s like they are victim of it of capitalism and couldn’t make another decision.

even under capitalism, Reddit could have found another solution. they could have milked third party app by bringing a slightly unfair price. blaming capitalism is too easy and in my book, often used by individuals to distance themself from their own responsibility. like the classic “they are no ethical consumption user capitalism, thus I can consume whatever I want it’s not my fault it’s the system. bad system, bad.”

you can’t blame every personal comportement to capitalism. it’s to easy.

edit: so you’ll downvote instead of argue. no wonder why blaming is your way to go.