Zoolander

Bro, we start selling a Christmas decorations in July in the US. People need to be making money off this shit.

Yes, I got that. That’s why I called them “magical”. I’m pretty sure everyone knows they don’t exist. That’s the point.

Top tier response. Well done. Full marks.

I didn’t have to. You’ve given reasons for why not to play those games. You’re just pretending like they’re reasons for not paying for them rather than for not playing them.

And they’re not personal attacks because they’re not directed towards just you. I’ve given plenty of evidence and reason for why people who do so are entitled. A personal attack is attacking the person making the argument. My argument is that people are making excuses because they’re entitled.

I really want to know the specific “performance enhancing drugs” these people think Biden is using. No hand-waving. Be explicit and tell everyone what magical drugs these are and then let’s test them both for these drugs.

Again, you’re just making excuses. You are exactly the type of person who feels entitled to these things. There is no right that you have to play games that you want to play just because you don’t like the surrounding situation. You can also just not play those games. There are plenty of wonderful games from indie devs without all of those things that you can play and reward them with your time and money but you’re choosing to play games from companies who do those things because of your sense of entitlement and then attempt to make excuses to justify your entitlement.

No one is forcing you to do these things. You’re choosing to do them.

1. I never said any of that so that’s a very robust straw man

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2. We’re not talking about things that aren’t legally available. This thread and discussion is about games that are available for purchase but whose users feel entitled to play without paying despite enjoying the game.

They’re both very nice straw men, though. I especially love their little hats.

If I believed that even half of the people that pirated these games couldn’t afford them, I’d agree with you. The reality is that most digital piracy is perpetuated by people who are well-off and have lots of tech, access to broadband internet, and high-end gaming computers.

Then you’re one of the good ones.

That’s not where I’m coming from. The “you’ve lost nothing” excuse is just an excuse. These people put their time, money, and talent into their games and people who are entitled and can afford to buy them don’t. My company made a game before and people played it for weeks and pirated it. Some of our top players by time were people who pirated the game. You can’t tell me that the game isn’t worth paying for if you’re spending that much time playing it. Some devs can get to the point of where Slay the Princess is and the actual sales can sustain the company and so the minimal pirating just encourages word of mouth sales. Most game devs don’t have that luxury. They’re trying to make a living and sustain themselves and entitled shits are leeching off their time and effort.

If you enjoy something, pay for it. Otherwise, you’re voting with your wallet for the wrong things.

Despite some of my objections, I almost feel like you have to pirate Ubisoft games. Their launcher ruins nearly every single Ubisoft game I’ve played and makes the games crashy, unplayable messes even when the games themselves are enjoyable.

It’s not about cost. Their time and talent have value. They should be rewarded for that time and talent.

Yes, and, also unfortunately, people here will bend over backwards to justify it.

That doesn’t entitle someone to their time and effort, though.

This is the right attitude towards piracy. Pirate it first, then pay if you feel it was worth it.

Yeah… a tragic mishap is getting your balls stuck in your zipper because you had to pee so bad you tried to rip your pants off. This is a bit more than a “tragic mishap”. ಠ_ಠ

Except I’m not. The last time this discussion came up, I was downvoted to hell and no one said anything of the sort.

Even in these comments… most of the replies are that it’s not only about piracy. There’s one person that has said “Yeah, I agree… I pirate.”

This is the wrong crowd for that, mate. I’ve gone through this rodeo on Lemmy too many times and you’re just going to get dishonest people pretending that what they’re doing isn’t stealing. It’ll be everything from “preservation of games” to “it’s just like renting from a library” and all the extremes of dishonesty.

No one here’s going to be honest about it.

I’m pretty privileged to be in a good spot and even I can see the writing on the wall - everyone around me is sad, overwhelmed, stressed, and angry and they can’t find anything that opens the release valve. I don’t understand how all these selfish bastards can look around and think that the US is doing great.

That’s why the captivity is so desirable and why it’s only going to get worse. Desperate people don’t have the luxury of caring if the job they take is going to be fulfilling or happy. They need the money more than any empathy or principles they have. If people are sad, you replace them because there’s crowds of desperate people that also quit their last job because it made them unhappy and now all their bills are 10-15% higher than they were before.