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Cake day: November 23rd, 2023

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  • Ted Ts’o was way out of line in that conference and was clearly channeling his inner ca. 2001 Torvalds.

    I think Rust is a better path forward for a majority of the kernel/driver code maintained currently, but it is definitely going to take time for it to gain a foothold. I also think there is some condescension on both sides that is completely unjustified and needs to stop.

    The hardline C devs that don’t want to learn Rust need to accept that at some point they will have to either adapt or pass the torch, and that no amount of whining or bitching in public forums is going to change that.

    The Rust devs that are getting upset because people are “attacking” their favorite language need to accept that there will be substantial and impassioned resistance to making broad language changes to a set of projects that have existed for decades. It would be an uphill battle for any language to try to supersede C in the kernel; this is not a condemnation or attack on Rust or its zealots, it’s a matter of momentum and greybeard stubbornness.



  • In fairness, “I don’t want to maintain bindings for a language I never intend to use” is a perfectly reasonable position.

    The typical answer here is for the language evangelist to implement and maintain the bindings, and accept the responsibility of keeping them in sync with the upstream (or understand that they will be broken for however long it takes for another community member to update them).











  • I’m just pointing out that within the constructs of the predominant Christian mythologies… Johnny’s fucked himself over unless he recognizes he’s being a shit and atones for it.

    Whether you assign any validity to the underlying dogma is an individual choice. People have a tendency to overlook logical inconsistencies in their faith frameworks, in any case.


  • There’s a subtext that you guys are missing. The devil wins whether he says Johnny won or lost.

    • If the devil wins, he gets Johnny’s soul per the terms of the bet.
    • If Johnny wins, the devil gets Johnny’s soul because he’s committing multiple deadly sins purely by boasting and challenging the devil for a golden fiddle: pride, greed, vanity.

    If he deems Johnny the winner, Johnny is less likely to challenge the decision, and he’s also more likely to continue committing the sins of pride and vanity (by boasting of his victory over the Devil Himself).

    Johnny’s only chance to avoid his fate (per most strains of the Christian faith) is to acknowledge and repent/confess/absolve his sins by seeking divine mercy. The devil knows this is unlikely.

    Johnny lost as soon as he uttered his first line.