• intensely_human@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Opposite likes north and south are opposites? Or opposites like apples and oranges are opposites.

    Fascism and communism are both:

    • authoritarian attempts
    • to improve socieity
    • by radically changing economic relations
    • from consensual trade to slavery
    • to support a massive war effort
    • designed to get the rest of the world under the same authoritarian regime
    • resulting in millions of battlefield deaths
    • and the deaths of millions of enslaved citizens
    • by overwork, disease, starvation
    • and outright systematic execution

    But one’s “left wing” and the other is “right wing” so they could be described as “opposites”.

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      1 year ago

      you have anything that isn’t Carl-“what nationalist”-Tucker ranting on Fox News?

      first off, Fascists didn’t try to change any economic relations, in fact a lot of the NAZI party members were staunch capitalists, People like Ford were lauded as great men of commerce and industry for their success in economics, the Nazis even privatized stuff that was public during the Weimar years.

      And why wouldn’t authoritarians like capitalism? the modern workplace literally resembles the fascist dream, you have the CEO (führer) with his cadre of upper management (close political aids/figures) middle and lower management as an enforcement mechanism with limited decision-making powers (Gestapo/SA/SS) and the good workers.

      and in the USA the ultra capitalists even have the fun social Darwinism bit going on (13/50 anyone?)

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        1 year ago

        Fascists didn’t try to change any economic relations

        They had labor camps where they used slave labor to further the war effort. Slavery was imposed upon people for whom economic interactions had previously been consensual and free.

        Why wouldn’t authorizations like capitalism?

        Because it is an economic system based on consensual exchange. That’s why it’s referred to as a “free market” system.

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          Well, first off, I will remind you that the great slave nations were almost all Capitalist.

          Secondly, Capitalism is not based on consensual exchange, and no free market means no government interference, the fact that we have laws against slavery inherently mean the market is LESS free, Capitalism is an economic system where power is mainly held by the capital holders, instead of the workers.

          Ironically, Capitalism can function perfectly fine with planed, and authoritarian economies… like it did during Nazi Germany.

          then again, I don’t expect someone spouting the old Glenbech shit to actually know anything about economic and political ideologies…