Connecting to wifi in live environment was pretty easy. I recall all I needed to do was iwctl and it worked. Though, I do sympathize with you. This should’ve been much easier considering that it’s expected that the user is going to need to access the internet.
Right, the live environment was easy. The drivers were there, the utility was there. Pull the list of networks, put in the password, good to go. I know half the point of Arch is doing it yourself, but if it auto-detects your network card, and it knows you’re on wifi… maybe install that stuff so things keep working instead of acting like it’s 2002 and most people are on a wired connection. Arch without a network connection is basically useless. I don’t think most users know what driver their wifi card needs, so it’s just a matter of installing a bunch of shit until something works, which makes the install feel a whole lot less clean. I get wanting to pick and choose packages, but if it can auto-detect and support the basic hardware, that seems like like it would be the minimum viable OS.
And I don’t know if things changed. I probably did this around 2014 or 2015, so it’s been a while.
Yeah, it does help the user know their system, which is a good thing for if/when there are issue down the road. Although I think if I was really after the learning experience I’d probably go with Linux from Scratch or Gentoo.
I hadn’t heard of archinstall before. I’m not a big fan of the warnings, it’s seems like they’re telling people they really shouldn’t use it, lol.
Connecting to wifi in live environment was pretty easy. I recall all I needed to do was
iwctland it worked. Though, I do sympathize with you. This should’ve been much easier considering that it’s expected that the user is going to need to access the internet.Right, the live environment was easy. The drivers were there, the utility was there. Pull the list of networks, put in the password, good to go. I know half the point of Arch is doing it yourself, but if it auto-detects your network card, and it knows you’re on wifi… maybe install that stuff so things keep working instead of acting like it’s 2002 and most people are on a wired connection. Arch without a network connection is basically useless. I don’t think most users know what driver their wifi card needs, so it’s just a matter of installing a bunch of shit until something works, which makes the install feel a whole lot less clean. I get wanting to pick and choose packages, but if it can auto-detect and support the basic hardware, that seems like like it would be the minimum viable OS.
And I don’t know if things changed. I probably did this around 2014 or 2015, so it’s been a while.
I mean, it’s a learning experience which is nice
And also there’s archinstall now, if you just want it to work.
Yeah, it does help the user know their system, which is a good thing for if/when there are issue down the road. Although I think if I was really after the learning experience I’d probably go with Linux from Scratch or Gentoo.
I hadn’t heard of archinstall before. I’m not a big fan of the warnings, it’s seems like they’re telling people they really shouldn’t use it, lol.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Archinstall