• the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Okay, so where should they go? If Israel is dissolved and the territory handed back to the Palestinian people, there will be a massive ethnic cleansing at the hands of Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran. Extracting every single Israeli would create yet another refugee crisis somewhere in the world - speaking strictly in terms of how to materially support all these people.

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      That the lame excuse that was also used to justify maintaining the apartheid in south africa

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      Wherever they want. Why is it on Palestine, Lebanon, or anyone else to figure out this problem that Israel created in the first place?

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        That will require an agreement with the host nations. That is not guaranteed by any means, nor is their safety before, during, or after the evacuation.

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            It’s not impossible, but I’m saying it isn’t guaranteed to be successful. I doubt Israel will agree to this arrangement, and I don’t know what nations will be willing to host them indefinitely. And given that Osama bin Laden orchestrated 9/11 partly because of the US’s alliance with the Jews, do you think these groups that hate Jews so much won’t consider striking their new homes?

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              The “Death to Israel” chants and hatred to Israel as an anti-zionist expression, not an anti-semitic one. This isn’t a conflict between Muslims and Jews. It’s one between Arabs and Zionist extremists.

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                It’s a conflict that caused Hamas to rape and kill 1,500 people, including children, and launch tens of thousands of rockets indiscriminately into Israel. I guess the victims were all Zionist extremists, though.

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                  Before I address your comment I just want to point out that a lot of the accusations about what was done by Hamas on Oct 7th was later debunked. Was it bad? Yes. Was it as bad as Israel made the world to believe? No.

                  And Oct 7th was not the beginning of the conflict. Israel was oppressing and systemically cleansing the Palestinian population for a long time. The only new thing Oct 7th introduced was that the civilians dying were white and not brown. Israel doesn’t have the right to call themselves some kind of victim, not after all they’ve done.

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                    Here is a response to Al-Jazeera’s October 7 documentary. And Hamas is still holding hostages from that day. Or is this whole article “pro-Israel propaganda”?

                    Oct 7th was what kicked this most recent madness off. If that didn’t happen, Gaza would likely not have been leveled and many would not have died, to name a few things. Hamas started this fight in particular, and it’s going to end one way or another.

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          I’d honestly prefer that they stop indiscriminately bombing schools and hospitals full of displaced Palestinians. Failing that, the moon sounds like a right fine spot to put them.

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            The IDF has about 634,000 personnel in total, but I suppose the other ~90% of the country that isn’t shooting the rockets has to go too. Osama bin Laden would be so happy to hear you say that.