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      Into Lebanese (some consider it Syrian, doesn’t change the dynamic) occupied territory before and after Oct 7th. Gradual escalation (with 80% of those attacks coming from Israeli side) expanded the scale of the northern/southern front to what we see today. Israel has killed 2 orders of magnitude more civilians than Hezballah has and has sought escalation at every stage.

      Before Oct 7th, they would exchange fire in occupied Lebanese land and tensions would rise then fizzle out about once a month.

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          Israel should stop occupying territory in violation of dozens of international resolutions and blocking the establishment of a Palestinian state. Belligerent occupiers are in no position to be “provoked” by those who they are occupying. How many wars do the Palestinians get to wage because of the nakba (or countless other massacres) and subsequent colonization of remaining territory?

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            This has all started because of an initial attempt at genocidal war against Israel and, following that, decades of attacks on the Jewish people.

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              Incredible how Israel poofs into existence in your framing. I hope you one day see the humanity of others. Goodbye.

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                It’s odd how three genocidal powers well known for their human rights abuses are completely correct in every atrocity they’ve committed in the last century. Have a nice day, it was good talking to you.

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          They should… not subject people to Apartheid and ethnically cleanse them. That’d help.

          The initial plan of the militants was to seize a luxury hotel in the Israeli city of Tel Aviv and take tourists and foreign ambassadors hostage to exchange them for Palestinian prisoners in Israeli custody.

          Also you say Lebanon but what the fuck do you mean by “Lebanon”? They literally had a civil war at the time. Who exactly are you assigning blame to here and why does that excuse Israel expanding their Apartheid and massacres to another country?

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            Ah yes, that makes it so much better. It’s a shame it ended in the deaths of 32 innocent people.

            And would you prefer I had specified the PLO in that post? A major power in the area?

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              Ah yes, that makes it so much better. It’s a shame it ended in the deaths of 32 innocent people.

              It seems the death of the hostages was accidental so yeah? I don’t defend intentional murder of innocents but anti-colonial resistance has a lot of moral leeway when it comes to accidental deaths.

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                I don’t think you get to call the killings an accident when they went there to kidnap a bunch of people. If I break into someone’s house to kidnap a woman and I end up shooting her husband, that doesn’t make it any less a murder.

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      They have a long blood soaked history that had mostly ended with the second Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 2006 before restarting last year.