• kent_eh@lemmy.ca
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      Russians are not ethnically communist

      Nor are they actually communist, despite claims they might have made to operating under that ideology.

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        Russia is fascist authoritarianism.

        My opinion is that no government was truly communist for long as it depends too much on people’s altruism, of which there is little. Any government that claims to be communist isn’t.

        Communism will always be an unstable political system, it always decays into some sort of corrupt authoritarianism due to humans’ self-serving nature.

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    I do agree that red scare rhetoric is increasing but buy in large it’s directed at China and Xi. Anti-communist tropes do show up in popular discourse on Russia but in my experience it’s less so in discussions on influence campaigns but in talk of Russia’s territorial ambitions (understandable considering the place of Soviet symbolism in Russian nationalism and war propaganda).

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    Man I wish North Americans were as scared of fascism and genocide as they are communism.

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        “All forms of extremism are bad.” Is itself an extreme statement.

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        Cool. Now, let’s start getting into whether communism is “extremism” or not, rather than just begging the question.

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          Any talk of communism is a “red” herring when it comes to this topic. Russia isn’t in any way officially, notionally, or superficially communist.

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            People still be calling Russia communist even though the Soviet Union famously fell under Boris Yeltsin

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              … and people calling themselves communist still leaping to its defence, for some inexplicable reason.

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            That’s because western propaganda has destroyed your ability to learn or think critically about anything left of capitalism. It’s not really your fault, it’s trillions spent on creating that mentality.

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              No, it’s because communism is an extremist ideology. You literally can’t go farther left on the political spectrum than communism. That is the very definition of extremism.

              By the way, capitalism is not a political ideology. It’s an economic one. I am a capitalist, but a centrist Libertarian one. I used to consider myself left of center, but the insanity of the left since Oct 7, 2023, has caused me to shift right of center.

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                You literally can’t go farther left on the political spectrum than communism.

                By the way, capitalism is not a political ideology.

                You contradict yourself.

                By your own logic, if capitalism isn’t a political ideology then neither is communism.

                The fact that you wrote these in the same comment lets everyone know that either you are ignorant, or you are extremely misinformed on the subject at hand.

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                  Communism is inherently a political/economic ideology. Capitalism is primarily an economic ideology with political implications.

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                Using the left and right spectrum is idiotic and not indicative of how extreme an ideology is. It’s like… 6th grade understanding of the nuances and philosophy of political, economic, and social issues and was created to make capitalism seem like a reasonable centrist position.

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                  Actually, it sounds more like you’re dismissing a standard political spectrum model to make communism sound less extreme than it is. Would you feel better if I used the word ‘radical’ rather than ‘extreme’?

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            I mean, this is blatantly obvious, but you’re probably American or some other western propaganda laden countries citizen, so I’ll let it slide. To compre Communism to Fascism is like comparing apples to some fruit that’s entire ideology is based on corporate slavery and racial inequality. You understand how apples have nothing to do with that and are not similar in any way. So to compare the two as if they are the same is a false equivalency.

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              The underlying ideologies are different, but I suspect the common feature the commenter was referring to is the practical tendency of both fascism and communism to develop into a totalitarian state.

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                  Capitalism certainly has flaws, but if you think the “oppression” in the US or western Europe is in any way comparable to that under the major fascist and communist regimes of Stalin, Mao or Hitler, I’m not sure what to say. We are from different planets.

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      It honestly reads like the author dismisses the potential of foreign influence affecting both domestic actors and politics outright without proof. There’s ample evidence that Russian state-affiliated actors have worked with social media influencers to foment outrage, for example. That’s not a “new red scare”, that’s straight up proof of intelligence operations designed to undermine Russia’s geopolitical opponents.

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    Russian ties, if present, are indeed dangerous. Laying unsupported claims to “russian connection” is just as bad as any other libel or damaging unsupported claim. Should we spend time eradicating russian influence - absolutely. How do we do it without turning it into a witch hunt? I don’t know how.

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    Is there any truth to the allegations? Beats me, but seeing the possibility dismissed as as a preposterous notion that can only be part of a “New Red Scare” does not decrease my estimation of the chances of it.

    This was just last month.