Wow this post got popular. I got called into work and didnt see the replies, sorry ladies and gentlemen! Trying to catch up tonight.

  • CrypticCoffee@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Are both dangerous in the wrong hands? Yes.

    Seeing things you don’t like and blaming the internet…

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      1 year ago

      One of them is a living thing…

      Some people are responsible with guns, but I’m still comfortable with getting rid of all of them because it’s not like the guns would be hurt with that decision. They’re inanimate objects.

      I’m less comfortable with putting down an entire breed of animal because some people are irresponsible assholes, and either abuse their pets or raise them to be attack dogs.

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        1 year ago

        You’re assuming how this can be done. The law in the UK is that it is illegal to import or breed these dogs. You can implement legislation in which dogs can live out their lives and eventually it ain’t a problem.

        Of course, I am not willing to watch children and old people getting mauled because you care about violent dogs designed to kill. Kill 'em like they kill me burgers…

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          because you care about violent dogs designed to kill

          As I pointed out in another comment, we don’t know that this is how this works. Nature vs nurture isn’t some no brainer just because it’s about something you don’t like.

          But regardless, no thank you. I don’t want any animal to be artificially driven to extinction because people are horrible and thus raise them horribly.

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            Claiming ignorance to avoid solving a problem is weak or deceptive.

            These dogs are bred to be strong. To kill. They don’t belong in homes and society near children. They should never have been bred in the first place nor imported, but that happened, so gotta deal with it.

            People buy these dogs to be intimidating. Compensating for something, I expect. If people are licensed and can prove training, fine, keep them, but if they have already been raised bad, it’s probably too late and too risky. A school girls runs past, and bam, disfigured.

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              Claiming ignorance?? Are you saying that you, despite hundreds of years of debate, have solved the problem of nature vs nurture? Wtf?

              These dogs are bred to be strong. To kill. They don’t belong in homes and society near children

              And as I said in another comment, so were some slaves. Should their descendants not be allowed in homes and society near children? That’d be insane. That’s not how anything works. Breeding can affect your physical attributes, but we have no idea how much it affects individuals psychologically.

              People buy these dogs to be intimidating. Compensating for something, I expect

              Exactly, so those people raise them to be viscous. So they end up being viscous. If they were raised in a loving household this wouldn’t be the case, but because of their reputation they’re far more likely to end up in abusive households, or raised to be attack dogs. It’s a viscous cycle.

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        Or just stop breeding them. This isn’t controversial. Humans created them, humans need to stop creating them.