• ShrimpCurler@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    … it conditions people for 15 minute cities and other forms of tyranny Are you saying you think the idea of having all important services within 15 minutes is tyranny?

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        I was confused because it’s such a bad take… That’s not what 15 minute cities are about. That’s just the dumb conspiracy theories.

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        your intent is NOT clear.

        restricted in your ability to travel is totally normal and not tyranny. Drivers licences are smart, Pilot license make sense, dang are speed limits tyranny?

        15 minutes cities is just a concept that all or most of the typically important services citizens need to survive and thrive should be within a 15 minutes of where they live without REQUIRING a car. Modern car dependent culture is the tyranny if anything, and 15 minute cities idea is a response to that

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          @aeischeid For anyone capable of basic logic it would have been. Obviously having services readily available is not tyrannical, being unable to travel is, what other significant aspects of 15 minute cities are there? Do you really want your life controlled to this degree?

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            Has anyone ever actually said, “I think we should have all services within a zone of 15-minute travel, and we should restrict people from leaving their zone, and this is called 15 Minute Cities and I support that idea”?

            “Having services readily available” is the entire idea. “You’re not allowed to go to another area” is nonsense that someone else tacked on to the concept to make people hate it.

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              @sthetic But that’s not what they are doing. In Oxford, they blocked off most of the streets between the cities sections with planters forcing you to go to an outer ring, after people threatened to hang the city council they reneg’d but if you aren’t vigilant this is what they do.

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            I have literally never seen the idea of a 15 minute city being restrictive anywhere other than the ravings of Alex Jones tier wingnuts. Everybody who actually pushes the concept just thinks you should have a grocery store, a doctor’s office, a library etc. near your house.

            Edit: and don’t get it twisted, nobody is saying you should be forced to relocate either, it’s a guideline for urban planning.