Satellite imagery taken after the US strike on Iran’s Fordow site showed smoke rising from the fuel enrichment plant. US President Donald Trump claimed key Iranian nuclear sites had been “obliterated,” while Iran claimed it had removed nuclear material from the sites before the strikes.
The administration running the country are terrorists who target people, domestic and foreign. Please don’t blame the people.
This orange maniac and his entourage could only get this far because of a good portion of “the people”.
I’m an American and I hate to break this to you but the people elected this clown. That’s how it works here. You didn’t vote for him? Okay. But until you’re doing absolutely everything you can to prevent people like him being elected, you don’t get to just shrug off responsibility. I know exactly two people who are doing everything they can, and neither of them is me.
It’s a tough one. Even the people who voted for him are mainly guilty of being gullible. Noone is born maga. They get indoctrinated. The gullible believe it, the rest make up all the stories about family political arguments at holiday dinners…
And Trump is that way because he’s an unintelligent nepobaby. We have to draw a line somewhere.
That’s fairly true of everyone and everything. We are born into a culture and it influences us greatly. I don’t think adults get any kind of a pass because of that. Certainly Americans of voting age have options about what to think and believe, regardless of where they start out.
That’s basically victim blaming. You are implying they have a choice to be less gullible? And yeah, it is a large group, the size of it doesn’t really matter. The powers that be are taking advantage of the masses for thier own purposes. And they know they are doing it.
As an outsider, I don’t blame the people who voted for him the first time but the second time? Nope. People had a choice to be less gullible because there was evidence that he is not fit to lead: felony charges, nepotism, incompetence, derangement etc.
It’s cognitive dissonance from the top down.
I’m saying they are adults and they have some responsibilities. I have lived in a place where thought options were actively suppressed, and I know how much freedom and information access Americans have. It’s true there is abuse and manipulation and lying out there. But no, I am not comfortable calling MAGAts victims and blaming someone else for how they vote. They are indeed getting fooled, but let’s be real: it’s a “fool me twice” situation in Trump’s second term.
Isn’t that what the US constantly does other countries?
I live in the US. I blame 40% of the people at a minimum, and likely more than that.
60%. Non-voters don’t get a pass.
Saying “The United States is a terrorist country” is exactly not blaming the working class people. The state itself is run by and operated by fascist terrorists.
Using that logic, all countries are like this.
Unless you think about it of course, then you realize in reality actually only one country and its client-state currently goes around bombing other countries it doesn’t even border and slaughtering civilians while celebrating it as “national security”, and that’s the US (and Israel, literal Jewish ISIS).
Russia: Am I joke to you?
Which country will take America’s place when it falls? America is not the first and while history may not repeat, it often echoes and they won’t be the last.
Look to all the European fuckery that set up many of these conflicts in the Middle East and Africa.
The UK, France, Belgium, etc. all have extremely bloody pasts around the world.
Well some are doing it a bit more in the open than others though… USA really has no shame anymore.
I would agree with you.
but after years of propaganda saying that Gaza needs to be killed because of a 2006 election. I think that logic needs to be applied to the country making that propaganda. The US voted for it very recently, no excuses.
You disagree with the current war, the entire world is on fire because of US imperialism and colonization, and you can’t distance yourself from all the benefits and pride you get from the “good side” of America.
Just like you can’t separate America from it’s history of being built on the backs of slaves and the institutional oppression that still comes from that, you can’t separate your current comforts as an American from their direct causes: oppression and stealing the resources of other nations and using all your “most deadly military’s” best stealth bombers and biggest bombs to bully the world through threats of regime change and economic sanctions. Trump isn’t what’s bad about America, he’s just an accelerated conclusion to neo-liberal politics, this is Bill Clinton’s America!
Don’t forget about Russia, they are doing horrible shit all the same. It’s not only US imperialism.
I hope you don’t think it’s just the current administration. I don’t blame the majority of the populace (in the same way I don’t blame the average Israeli or Russian for example), but as a political entity this is nothing new for the USA.
Edit: or rather, from the outside looking in, this doesn’t feel particularly off brand
“The administration” is (usually!) used to refer to the monolithic entity that continues without interruption (office of the prez, congress etc), “this administration” is used to refer to the specific current government/clarify in cases of ambiguity. Weird quirks of american english, what fun…
(Not disagreeing to be clear. Although this is a bit more transparently “dancing to the tune of the puppet master” than most of the US’s other forays into the mid. east, I must say.)
find me a US President who didn’t do/oversaw/allow war crimes?
I’ll wait
it’s not a just a Trump issue
Yes…?
You kinda have to, as it is a democracy, at least on paper…
Gaza had an election in 2006, which is used as a justification for a genocide.
under that logic there’s a greater claim to genocide the US.
Double standards
Directly dismantling democracy. Directly brought terrorists to power. The peace that Israel wanted trampled underfoot and attacked again and again… 7 Oct then caused a backlash… Now they pretend to be the victim… but for the 7th they celebrate anyway… Ah yes, the calls for genocide against Israel ( and the whole West ) etc were also…
The funny thing is that no other country’s citizens get that benefit.
Israel? Evil for slaughtering palestinians Russia? Evil for the war on ukraine
The united states voted trump in, sure some were opposed, but the country chose the administration. Americans should be internationally reviled, we have committed an atrocity via democracy.
What are you talking about? I have yet to see someone mean “working class Jews” when saying “fuck Israel.”
Nation states, all of them, even the recently fake ones like Israel, are run by evil people.
You should look closer, for example at the responses to iran bombing israel, “fafo” and the like are the most common, clearly blaming the citizens who are lamenting in the videos with the government’s actions.
To be clear I’m on the side of reduced suffering for all people, and really only advocating for my country (the US) to take responsibility for the suffering we inflict.
All civilians have a right to live free, happy lives
It’s the structures that keep putting people in power that are to blame