• BaronVonBort@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Bibi not using available intelligence to avoid the attack?

    I don’t understand, why would he want that! What would he have to gain?

    (Obvious sarcasm)

  • Fades@lemmy.world
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    I mean yeah, he’s a corrupt piece of trash who is actively hurting israelis (and basically everyone else in the region for that matter)

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      1 year ago

      Reigon? World man, these wars have ripple effects that totally skew some people into full blown racists. Hell, that poor kid got shot by his landlord recently.

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        Don’t forget the 6 yo boy who was stabbed multiple times by a man who used to play with him.

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          I’m pretty sure that’s who they’re talking about. They just thought they got shot instead. Someone correct me if two kids got murdered by their landlords recently…

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    You mean the guy who pushed to empower Hamas in order to weaken the PLO might be a little responsible for this?

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        FR, he actually made himself immune to any legal accountability and nobody realized until his corruption trials a few years ago. Israelites looking like the dumbest mfs on the planet right now.

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    9-11 was a failure of intelligence. It also led to easy justification for two wars. But I’m sure this won’t be like that. People will be reasonable this time. /s

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      The news-media has been calling it “Israel’s 9-11” pretty much from Day 1. Kind of thought it was understood Bibi let this happen for genocide justification purposes.

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        Kind of thought it was understood Bibi let this happen

        he’s a dumb corrupt piece of shit, but this is something that needs evidence if you’re gonna imply it’s some sort of obvious open secret. We did that for that war monger Bush, we can do it to bibi instead of just assuming and passing it off as fact

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          The question is what’s stronger, Bibi’s moral fibre or his desire to stay in power and avoid prison? Because I am not that quite sure about the non-genocidality of characters like Ben-Gvir.

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    This is almost the exact same article that was posted last week, except this time from Reuters instead of JPost. They both reference polls done by Maariv, but once again fail to link to actual poll results. Am I taking crazy pills here for wanting to see the actual poll? Wtf is up with modern journalism?

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        Yeah, they’re putting a lot of old conspirancies under a brand new light. Too much control on the news environment.

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      It took Joe Biden to travel to Israel to Scooby Doo the Middle East and tell us who the real perpetrator of the conflict is.

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      Modern journalism is about being first and the CTA is user interaction. So basically the popular method is to create as extreme headline as possible as early as possible without any need for proof.

      It’s a pile of horse garbage

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      Honestly, no news sites actually like the poll unless they’re the ones that do it. (Youll sometimes see Fox link to a fox poll for example)

      I dont know why this is. Maybe they don’t want you to leave their site?

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        I don’t find that to be the case. I always make it a point to check the actual polls instead of relying on the headlines, and it’s usually pretty easy to find. For some reason, this particular poll has been reported multiple times in the last week and I’ve never been able to find a link to it. Last week someone even looked at the Israeli website of the people conducting the poll and still couldn’t find it.

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    I’m surprised they haven’t replaced Netanyahoo with Netangoogle yet.

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      Mostly because Netanyahoo is still better at porn than Netangoogle. I don’t remember how it compares to Netanbing.

      I personally prefer Netanduckduckgo.

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      The massive anti-Netanyahu protests and reorganization of government as a result of his corruption trials are actually part of the reason that they failed to defend against the initial rocket attack. Hamas made a statement that they weren’t expecting all of their forces to get through, so they crossed in groups from multiple directions and attacked multiple barriers and comm towers, but literally all of them made it. They called the IDF a paper tiger.

      EDIT: To Be Clear, I’m not saying that they shouldn’t have protested and reorganized, I am instead saying they should have removed him maybe even killed him. The people of Israel failed to prevent this by allowing Corruption to continue.

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    Now, do they think he failed by instituting inhumane conditions on Gaza leading to them lashing out? Or he failed by not oppressing them enough?

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      Or failed by diverting almost all the border guards over to the West Bank to oppress the Palestinians there.

      But we need to how they feel about that second part…

      The official policy on Hamas was to just sort of ignore them in favor of stealing land in the West Bank.

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      I don’t think people in Israel view it as a good or bad way, just by the results.

      If someone tries to sell you on less freedom, less privacy, more surveillance, and you still get attacked, then people start to wonder what was the point. Regardless of the measures taken.

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      Coalition governments are totally different than a two party system in the USA. There are over a dozen parties with in Israel, Netenyahu needed to form a coalition with ultra-nationalist to win. Each of these parties have to be kept happy else the coalition falls apart.

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      Well, it might. The Hamas surprise attack is the exact same thing as the surprise attack that started the Yom Kippur War. The prime minister at the time, Golda Meir, was also blamed for intelligence failure and her government resigned. This might happen again under Netanyahu, but he seems to be a smart enough fella for self-preservation so he might have learned from history. But who knows.

      (as an aside, very ironic to say “intelligence failure” if anyone catches my drift)

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    I’m dearly hoping, and maybe even optimistic, that Israel will take a lesson moving forwards that, while the violence of two weeks ago was not and can never be justified, the underlying anger and resentment that produced it didn’t emerge from nowhere, and Netanyahu did a lot to very directly incite it. Israel needs to show that it will always be welcome towards working with Palestinians that are actually interested in moving towards peace, and actions like settlements in the West Bank and murdering journalists are not productive towards that aim.