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    1 year ago

    I feel like the only “they” that’s ever said this was people making and selling consoles. It’s propaganda and articles like this do more to propagate it than combat it. Stop it.

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      That and companies like EA where a big chunk of their income comes from various sports games that they half ass a remake of every year. PC gamers don’t touch those, but there’s a large number of people with consoles who only use it for things like FIFA and will continue to dutifully buy the new ones and spend dumb amounts of money to unlock their favorite players.

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      If I recall correctly, Tim Sweeny said you needed a +900$ for a PC to equal the power of a 500$ PS5. Which wasn’t true even when he said it… and it was time when the ps5 just launched and covid-19 era chip shortage hit the gpu market the most (the ps5 is a SoC with unified ram and underpowered CPU, you could buy the usual second hand Optiplex for ~50$ and spend the remaining 450$ for a GPU/PSU that surclassed PS5)

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      I remember people saying this with pretty much every console generation.

      Why have a pc when consoles can produce similar or better graphics and are way cheaper.

      It basically boils down to PCs being useful for way more than games. Many people are more willing to invest in a good pc that can do all those things over a gaming specific device.

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        If I compare how Hogwarts Legacy runs on my 1070Ti vs an XBox Series S I would state that consoles are nowhere near close to pc’s, nor will they ever be. Only thing to be said for the Series S is that it is cheaper.

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          Probably can barely even buy the 1070Ti for what the Series S will cost you. Let alone the rest of the PC

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        Many people are more willing to invest in a good pc that can do all those things over a gaming specific device.

        Playstation don’t let me watch 6 porn videos at once like I can on my pc.

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        I wonder how much the cost is worth the extra value though. A single PC part (the most important one for gaming) can cost double what an entire console costs. PCs are useful for more than games but is it worth it at that much of a price difference? If you’re not doing heavy video editing or running a dozen VMs, a console + cheap laptop is probably a more sensible setup for most people.

        But for me it’s the infinite backwards compatibility and emulation possibilities when the console makers drop the ball in that regard. Got burned pretty hard when none of my massive PS3, 2, or 1 library worked on my PS4. That’s when I started investing in PC gaming. I spent a small fortune for that and it’s hard to say right now if it was worth it, but the peace of mind from knowing that the games I buy for it aren’t going to be useless coasters in 10 years is what made me go this route.

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          A single PC part (the most important one for gaming) can cost double what an entire console costs.

          You can buy an extremely cheap Optiplex+cheap GPU on eBay and have a machine with more horsepower and AAA gaming capabilities than Xbox Y series and Playstation 6.

          PCs are useful for more than games but is it worth it at that much of a price difference?

          If you buy a PC with GPU capabilities equiparable to PS5… you can always and for all videogames in your library to run to such level of power. This also appy to emulators.

          With a PS5 you can have PS5 only if you keep buying new PS5 game = +70$ for each new videogame.

          If you come selling from Xbox to buy into Playstation… it’s even worse: you basically lose your whole library.

          With PCs you get even more game than any latest console can.

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          Games are literally free. Theres no comparison pc is much cheaper.

          Plus you can play those games forever you don’t need to rebuy them like an idiot every other new gaming box.

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        /1. PC is short for personal computer, if it has a motherboard and can be used outside of a commercial setting then it’s a PC

        /2. Whether you are using a closed source OS like Windows/Xbox/Mac/PlayStation/Switch on your device or an open source one like Linux it doesn’t change the device

        So if your argument is that a console is a console because the user hasn’t installed Linux yet then why use the term PC instead of calling it a Linux device?

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          Don’t play dumb you know very well the difference between a console and a PC, which is that one let’s you do what you want and the other doesn’t. I’m not playing this stupid game ffs

          Also this is so dumb a NES is a PC by your definition…

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            A personal computer (PC) is a multi-purpose microcomputer whose size, capabilities, and price make it feasible for individual use.[1] Personal computers are intended to be operated directly by an end user, rather than by a computer expert or technician.

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_computer

            So like yeah, I’m glad I could teach you the word

            But why do you only consider it a PC when Linux is installed? What about dual booting? Is my Switch only a pc when I’m booted into Linux?

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    Some games are just better on PC. I can’t imagine playing Cities Skyline 2 on a console.

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      I was just looking in the switch shop and saw Cities Skyline 1. There are a lot of really good looking switch games and ports… but I just can’t imagine that game transferred well.

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    Or people are just comfortable with what they have and don’t always want the latest, greatest thing that usually costs hundreds of even thousands of dollars these days. I’m perfectly comfortable just playing minecraft on my PC once in a while on my own on a ten year old system that I bought and built myself for about $500 and pay for a $20 game title.

    I really don’t care if someone tells me or shows me their $5,000 rig (that they’ll upgrade in a year) that is streaming the latest multiplayer game they spend hundreds of dollars on every year to level up and hopefully become a world reknowned gamer online.