Everything I’ve read points to shitty managers being the biggest cause for employees leaving. I guess the managers wrote this and couldn’t think there would be any possibility they would be at fault.
My boss had the worst employee satisfaction result ever seen in our group for his department. No surprise, he had oversold himself to get the job and when his idiotic project of redoing everything from the ground up started to be way delayed compared to the unrealistic promises he had made to the board, he asked everyone to go into “crunch mode” for “a short time”, work late, Saturdays, and so on. A “short time” became months…
Anyhoo, he asked us, what we could do about his shitty results because the board actually got worried. I reminded him, the work life balance sucked, people were overworked and they didn’t see any end to “the crunch” and it had to stop before any other action.
He dismissed my idea and he settled on a team lunch. But since he didn’t want to waste work time for “the crunch”, he decided to have it on a Sunday and fuck up the only off day for most of the people.
I’ve never seen a floor of people so angry than the day they got the email about that team lunch.
I told him, he dismissed it again.
That’s about when I went into quiet quitting and patiently waited to be fired while pretending to be out on meeting and actually going for walks in the park.
I think I might be beyond a pay raise saving it at this point. They have been times in the past where pay stagnation was the big driver to me start to look, and without me even saying anything, I’d just so happen to get a big bump in pay that would settle things down. Even if they doubled my pay right now, I’d feel exactly the same without a change in culture. At some point there’s only so much shit you can ignore in the name of money.
I’m not that old, worked with 14 companies, every manager was on the shit scale. Even when I saved a smaller companys biggest client, by rewriting critical part as a new hire when no one else could get it to satisfy new requirements, the manager told me I should not expect more money, since I didn’t finish Uni.
Hundred percent. And best indicator for someone to stay is having sn actual friend at the company. So you gotta invest in leadership training and team building.
I’m actually torn between those things right now. Management is awful, but I have people I work with who I’d call friends, some of them I’ve known for over a decade and have traveled with multiple times (for work and not for work). My loyalty to those people makes it hard to quit, but I’m getting damn close.
I am close to that. I know I could make more and I don’t particularly enjoy the work but my coworkers are freaken awesome and so is my boss. Guys I actually enjoy seeing after work.
Most likely just going to stick it out. There is something to be said about dealing with people for 40 hours a week that I like.
Everything I’ve read points to shitty managers being the biggest cause for employees leaving. I guess the managers wrote this and couldn’t think there would be any possibility they would be at fault.
My boss had the worst employee satisfaction result ever seen in our group for his department. No surprise, he had oversold himself to get the job and when his idiotic project of redoing everything from the ground up started to be way delayed compared to the unrealistic promises he had made to the board, he asked everyone to go into “crunch mode” for “a short time”, work late, Saturdays, and so on. A “short time” became months…
Anyhoo, he asked us, what we could do about his shitty results because the board actually got worried. I reminded him, the work life balance sucked, people were overworked and they didn’t see any end to “the crunch” and it had to stop before any other action.
He dismissed my idea and he settled on a team lunch. But since he didn’t want to waste work time for “the crunch”, he decided to have it on a Sunday and fuck up the only off day for most of the people.
I’ve never seen a floor of people so angry than the day they got the email about that team lunch.
I told him, he dismissed it again.
That’s about when I went into quiet quitting and patiently waited to be fired while pretending to be out on meeting and actually going for walks in the park.
I think we might have the same job, lol.
I have quit from more than 10 companies (i’m old), and I’d say that 100% of the time the reason was shitty managers.
But “A raise in pay” would be the best solution to convince to me stay.
I think I might be beyond a pay raise saving it at this point. They have been times in the past where pay stagnation was the big driver to me start to look, and without me even saying anything, I’d just so happen to get a big bump in pay that would settle things down. Even if they doubled my pay right now, I’d feel exactly the same without a change in culture. At some point there’s only so much shit you can ignore in the name of money.
I’m not that old, worked with 14 companies, every manager was on the shit scale. Even when I saved a smaller companys biggest client, by rewriting critical part as a new hire when no one else could get it to satisfy new requirements, the manager told me I should not expect more money, since I didn’t finish Uni.
Hundred percent. And best indicator for someone to stay is having sn actual friend at the company. So you gotta invest in leadership training and team building.
I’m actually torn between those things right now. Management is awful, but I have people I work with who I’d call friends, some of them I’ve known for over a decade and have traveled with multiple times (for work and not for work). My loyalty to those people makes it hard to quit, but I’m getting damn close.
Sounds to me that those friends will stay in your life even if you would move to a different job.
I am close to that. I know I could make more and I don’t particularly enjoy the work but my coworkers are freaken awesome and so is my boss. Guys I actually enjoy seeing after work.
Most likely just going to stick it out. There is something to be said about dealing with people for 40 hours a week that I like.
There’s a lot of value in that. I think too many people focus on the money and not enough on the culture and the people.
I’m in France and I confirm. I never left a company because of the salary. It was always because managers were behaving like little Hitlers.