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    $100 says he left immediately after taking these photos. Dr.Hustler PhD here is using precious company time to write a chapter’s worth of bullshit. Get back on that horse, it’s time to work.

    Edit: I finally get it! This must have been what Rage Against the Machine meant when they said, “Can’t waste the day when the night brings a Hurst.” Still not sure how, “Rollin’ down Rodeo with a shotgun,” fits in this pro corpo anthem but maybe I’m just not a hard enough worker to get it. Bad tradeoff indeed.

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    Having worked in various countries of Europe with various different work cultures, I can guarantee you that at least in Software Development the productivity of working more than 8h a day regularly (you can get away with doing it for a week or two, but no further) is so much less than in with 8h/day or less, that you’re literally producing less results with your work in a whole long-hours day of work than you do in an 8h day.

    In simple terms, tired people do negative work and people working long hours regularly end up chronically tired.

    Maybe it works differently for people doing stuff that’s all about salesmanship (like Business Angel) for whom more hours means more “meets”, but in my personal experience it definitelly works as I described for people actually doing heavy thinking work that has to actually work rather than merelly doing talkie-talkie with hard to compare results and where efficiency is near impossible to measure.

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      I understood that when once we decided to stay longer and worked for 12h one day, and then spent the next morning un-fucking what we screwed up during those extra hours.

      Or when I spent an hour debugging something late in the day, only to come in the morning and find the problem in 15 mins. At least in software development, effectiveness dramatically drops when you’re tired and it’s really not worth it killing yourself to do something 2h faster.

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      I work in IT support, which is basically the next pond over from development. Because the job is so mentally intensive, if I’m working on complex tasks for more than 4-5 hours, my brain is catatonic by the time I hit the end of my shift.

      Mental effort, is still effort. Most of the time you can’t see that someone is mentally tired, but it is just as debilitating as being physically exhausted.

      I can not do my job while mentally exhausted. One screw up from me, and I have the ability to, entirely by accident, take out an entire organizations ability to do useful work.

      Some of my clients, I’ve seen log into the system at 8AM or earlier, and still be online after midnight. I don’t understand how they’re getting anything useful done by that time.

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    My office is a ghost town by the time I leave at 5. That’s how I know I’ve found a good place to work. (Also don’t have to be in the office every day)

    I only stay that “late” because I get there later than almost everybody else.

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      I also prefer coming late and leaving late. After finishing my formal education nothing forces me into the rhythm of the morning larks anymore. I’ve been enjoying it quite a bit.

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    the only people who want to put in longer hours at the office have absolutely nothing to go home to.

    they should be pitied instead of being vilified. drop them a “get well soon” message in social media should you encounter them.

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      Usually they’re also the people who don’t do anything… I don’t know how many I’ve run into and ask what they’re working on, only for them to give me a “catching up on email or cleaning up” response. They’re just wasting time, hoping to look good.

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        “Catching up on emails” is something you must do and can take a lot of time depending on your role and circumstances, though. My interepretation of this answer would depend on if the answer is for “what I’m doing right now” or “what I’ve been working on today”.

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      Nah. It’s leaders like this moron that are just looking to make money off your hard work. Get going, you have billionaires to please!

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      Some of us work our asses off because we’re passionate, but don’t pressure our coworkers to do the same… It’s a phase like most things are. If I ever get a management position in my current industry, I won’t expect after-hours responses/work…

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        Some of us work our asses off because we’re passionate

        i’m so sorry to hear that. hope you get something at home which can share in that abundant passion.

        get well soon.

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      He probably only arrived at 12:00 and is complaining about everyone that has a live besides work (children, hobbies, volunteer jobs etc) and arrive early.

      Considering there’s laws in Germany that prevents you from working more than 8 hours a day, hes either in violation of those laws or full of shit.

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        Considering there’s laws in Germany that prevents you from working more than 8 hours a day

        That’s vastly more complicated, only mostly true and only true for employees, not self-employed people.

        So he might not be full of shit in this regard, but he’s clearly full of shitty-hustle-culture-nonsense!

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          It’s pretty much true for any office worker. They can stay up to 10 hours a day, but only if their average day isn’t longer than 8 hours in a period of 6 months.

          Vacation and illness don’t count as a counter measure.

          Pretty much everything else has to be approved by government entities.

          Maybe he can stay longer, but if he’s the boss he’s even more full of shit if he demands them to break the law, because it is his responsibility to keep track and make sure nobody is working any longer than that.

          It’s fines up to 50k for every single violation.

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      Tell me again how hard you’re working when you’re a grown ass adult who needs to stay until 18:30 every day to accomplish anything competitive

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        Some of us are nocturnal. His issue is that he thinks that anyone can stay productive for more than about 4 hours a day. That’s just an unrealistic expectation created by bullshit jobs that we can autopilot through for 8 hours a day because the dictators up top decided that was the best decision.

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          True. If you start in the evening that’s fair. I’ve lived like that before accepting that I’m cursed to the diurnal life by my nature. At that time I did the whole 18 hour days thing. I didn’t do by best work back then and it was killing me, and I grew out of it after college.

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    Sounds like a dude who works all day without accomplishing anything and doesn’t understand how people can get work done quickly by being good at it.

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      Actually, he seems to be a guy who’s just gallivanting all over the world and posting about it on social media, while others are doing the hard work.

      Then again, all I have to go by is his LinkedIn profile…

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    And instead of working himself he spents his so productive working time by writing linkedin posts.

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    The other day I was driving on the Autobahn at 3:30am and there were literally no cars around me. These Germans always go on and on about how the Autobahn is so fucking great, but then they are not using it? You have to be really stupid to not see how that illustrates why the entire country is going to shit

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      3:30 AM is probably the best time to be driving on the Autobahn, too. Can’t believe nobody’s using it at that time.

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    Imagine not realizing that you have to take breaks to be productive. It’s better to go home and forget about what you were working on and come back the next day. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve struggled f with an issue and came back to it and figured it out right away.

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      That is the key thing that is wrong with the whole “work ethic” rhetoric. Working longer hours is not good for productivity unless you have a job that basically has no quality metric attached to anything you produce and quantity is just measured in time worked.

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      Chances are many are still working. They’re combining eating with socialising with peers in the hundreds of bars and restaurants and discussing many things, including work related stuff… which is a lot healthier than always eating alone at your desk.

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      This is an especially stupid post coming from a guy working in Germany. As far as I know, they see leaving work early as a good thing because you were so productive you didn’t need an entire day of work to complete your tasks

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    What if instead of working, I spend two hours making a salty post about people not working?

    is_this_grindset.png

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    Sounds like my man needs to get off LinkedIn. Who tf “loves to talk and post about the hustle” in real life ?

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    Prosperity comes from inherited wealth.

    People who work from a co-working space usually are in no place to lecture others about prosperity.

    If you brag about how late you work in the evening, at least tell us when you start in the morning.

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      That would be a great reply:

      “What time did you get in? I didn’t see you at all for the 13 hours I was there. Did you just show up to take a picture?”

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        Their golf is “business networking” and counts as work. Your bar time with coworkers and other business associates is goofing off.