The hot pepper linked to teen’s death can cause arteries in the brain to spasm.

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    I can almost guarantee it wasn’t the chip itself that did anything, but some underlying condition the kid already had that was exasperated by the spice. Perhaps even an allergic reaction. The media is blowing up on this without even knowing the actual cause of death.

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      Pretty fucken disgraceful if you ask me. Take a tragic accident, turn it into clickbait, and use it to drive traffic to your “news” site to get more eyes on your bullshit advertisements.

      God I fucking hate this planet.

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      Yeah, as a hardened chillihead I’ve done extensive reading on the fruits and no where is risk of death ever listed as an issue.

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        Dragon’s Breath and other extremely spicy peppers are definitely labeled with warnings that they can cause severe anaphylaxis and death by choking.

        The media spins that a lot tho. The scientists that cultivated the Dragon Breath pepper and tested it on the scoleville scale gave it a typical boilerplate allergy warning; news spins that as “worlds hottest pepper is LETHAL.”

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    Still no proof capsaicin caused the death. I’m eagerly awaiting for what the autopsy unveils

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        There’s no proof aliens didn’t shoot him with an invisible laser… also interested to see what the autopsy unveils

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    Gonna be real mad if this ends up making it harder to get hot stuff. Don’t push your limits folks, but don’t restrict others.

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      Seriously, it’s already impossible to get a decently spicy hot sauce at the grocery store.

      Even the stuff covered in skulls or warnings or labeled “ghost pepper” are so diluted that they hardly count. Look, they’re hot, but ghost pepper in particular has become a buzzword, turning it nigh meaningless in determining how hot a sauce will be. Such a shame, too, as the ghost pepper has a delightful high intensity, low burn heat and sweet finish.

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      Do you buy your hot food in specifically TikTok friendly, coffin shaped packaging explicitly labed as a challenge?

      Let’s hope they regulate greedy marketing not food sales.

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        Spicy challenge products have been sold like this since before TikTok was a thing.

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    My favorite chip in the world are the Paqui Ghost Pepper chips. A tad too salty, but still delicious. I hope this doesn’t f*ck that up, even though they haven’t been in any of the markets for months. I just ordered a case off the internet just in case they disappear forever.

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      Seabrook’s in the UK did Trinidad Scorpion crisps for a bit and they were gorgeous. Haven’t seen them for a while either.

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    The effects on blood pressure are well known, but that it can cause spasm of arteries is interesting.

    Many people eat lots of spicy food daily and I never heard of serious health issues. Especially a single chip might contain a concentrated amount of capsaicin, but it is unlikely to contain much more in volume then a hot plate of chili con carne or even just a hand full of raw jalapenos. So I assume it is some underlying condition and a shock reaction and not the capsaicin itself.

    I would love to see more research into this.

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        I could have also picked a habanero which is admittedly a lot more spicy and it used to be the hottest pepper in the world, but it usually doesn’t cause a big reaction either.

        Anyway, that’s missing the point. I was talking about the total amount of capsaicin which can’t be really high in just one chip. It is just a tiny amount of concentrated capsaicin and I believe that people usually consume more with a regular spicy meal. Hence my believe that not the capsaicin itself is the problem.

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        Yeah, but there are hotter peppers and foods available and the jalapeño is an incredibly mild pepper, it’s barely spicy and not a good comparison.

        Challenge foods and sauces in general tend to also use pure capsaicin extract to really bring home the heat, but this tends to affect the flavor and make it bitter and unpleasant. Foods shouldn’t be “challenging” you to eat them and then artificially raising the stakes. It’s hard enough to get decently hot foods as it is, having to keep an eye out for companies “cheating” by using the pure extract from the peppers is annoying.

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          I too hate the extract sauces, they’re just painful without the flavour. As far as I’m aware these crisps don’t use it. The world’s hottest ramen challenge I did was just reaper mash missed into the sauce.

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    ‘The chip was only intended for adults’. I know there are plenty of adults that adore a challenge of spice foods. My experience in marketing tells me these people knew exactly what demographic they’d be hitting hardest with this type of challenge.

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    Capsaicin extract should be banned from food in general.

    It’s unpleasant and tastes astringent, unlike the capsaicin coming naturally from peppers.

    I’ll regularly eat incredibly spicy foods, I grow Naga, scorpion and ghost chilis, and I love the thrill of these treats, but also the flavor. Capsaicin extract is immediately detectable because the flavor and feel of the heat is different and unpleasant. It isn’t that it’s “too spicy”, it feels bad to eat.

    If your heat doesn’t come from a pepper included in the recipe, it shouldn’t be consumed.

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      It’s probably fine for industrial cooking where it’s being heavily diluted. These crisps don’t use it though.

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        I’m sure it is subjective. My girlfriend is obsessed with hot sauces and loves adding them to food

        If I make me did spicy though she doesn’t add any which I take as a compliment

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      Like the big “only for adult consumption” warning he ignored on the back of the box?

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    I did the challenge two days ago. It was the third spiciest I’ve had. Was definitely something that could do harm to someone who doesn’t know how to handle ultra-spicy. The kid won a Darwin Award. You can’t ban spicy food nor should you. This is a parenting issue. If this kid didn’t die from this skull and crossbones coffin wrapped in warnings, it would have been some other TikTok challenge like drinking bleach.

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      The 14 year old ate the chip at school, there’s no mention of who gave the chip to him. It’s a school administration problem, but hardly a parenting issue unless the mother bought the chip for her son and sent it to school with him. The mother came to pick the boy up right away when he complained of pain, rushed him to the hospital when he lost consciousness, and she is now speaking out to warn others about the dangers of this stupid challenge.