Disturbing visuals of Hamas parading a naked and battered body of a woman on the streets of Israel have emerged. Another woman confirmed that it was her sister, a German citizen, seen in the video.
As the Israel-Gaza conflict rages, disturbing visuals of fighters of the Palestinian armed group Hamas parading a naked and battered body of a woman through the streets of Israel in the back of a pickup truck have emerged.
According to videos that surfaced on social media, a screaming crowd surrounds the Hamas’ vehicle, echoing their cries and spitting on the woman’s body.
Hamas initially claimed that the body belonged to a female Israeli soldier, according to news.com.au. However, Adi Louk confirmed on X that the woman seen in the video was her sister, Shani Louk, a German citizen and a tattoo artist, reported the New York Post.
Shani Louk’s mother, in a video message posted by Visegrad 24 on X, confirmed her daughter’s identity and appealed to people for more information regarding her whereabouts.
But NOOO poor them, they’re only acting like this because they’re oppressed don’t you understand?
I mean, I get your sarcasm, but they literally are acting like this because of their oppression.
They don’t have a military. They’re blockaded. Their citizens are killed at will by the IDF without any repercussions. Hell, Israel is now killing reporters with impunity who try to make light of it.
Palestinians have been living under an apartheid regime perpetrated by Israel for generations, and yes, that kind of powerlessness will result in expressions of unbridled violence and rage such as this one.
And it’s never going to end.
Still a tragedy, though, no doubt. It’s always been the peasants who suffer so the rich people can have their wars.
Believe you mean “bring it to light” or “shed light on it”
“Make light of it” is when you suggest it is not serious
Misread the post.
Does beating a woman to death and parading her body through the streets qualify as oppressing another person?
If you’re on the side of Hamas regime, you’re on the side of the oppressor, not the oppressed.
You can both be oppressed and opress others.
Hurting people hurt people.
Shit rolls downhill.
All i am trying to say is that, sadly, being the opressed doesn’t mean you cant be an oppressor. The world is complex…
Yet you’re choosing the side of one of the oppressors… why are you choosing the oppressor that does the thing you see in that video? Do you want more of that to happen? Do you think if Hamas desecrates enough corpses the conflict will end? What is your goal?
He’s quite clearly not picking a side, he’s just acknowledging nuance
And this is the problem. You can’t even entertain a good faith discussion about this because as soon as you defend Palestine, you’re an antisemite and have nothing worth saying.
As far as the Israeli/Palestine conflict goes, Hamas are not the oppressors. The numbers of casualties speak for themselves. They can still do terrible things while being oppressed. It’s not an excuse. Fuck the people involved in this horrible crime, but we can’t act like the Israelis are the good guys in the conflict either.
If it’s true, yes.
The difference is the imbalance in power. Israel is a state sponsor of an apartheid. They are oppressing an entire nation of people in ways far more barbaric than this. (Two examples, shelling kids playing soccer on a beach or bombing hospitals, and those are fully documented and indisputable.)
It’s monstrous when a small number of terrorists do something awful, if in fact this woman was attacked in this way, but it’s not comparable to terrorism committed at a state level by a government with a modern military machine.
You should learn the difference between apartheid and an occupation. Using the wrong terms doesn’t make your argument carry more weight, it just makes you sound like an idiot.
The difference between a war and the type of fascist barbarity that Hamas is putting on display is that a war has an objective. When the objective is achieved the violence ends. With fascists like Hamas the barbarity is the objective. The kid you see in the video spitting on the corpse is a future recruit for Hamas. The kid learned this level of depraved violence is normal and right. When that kid is old enough to be a “freedom fighter” who in that Palestinian town will dare oppose Hamas knowing that their members have been indoctrinated from a young age to devalue life to this degree?
Israel’s goal is to be safe from Palestinian rocket attacks. The settlement strategy is literally from the Machiavelli’s writing. I don’t agree with it, it’s very medieval kind of thinking. But there is an ultimate goal of peace, albeit by horrible means.
The depravity you see in the video is the goal of Hamas. Maintain genocidal fervor, maintain power.
Clearly, you do.
Secondly, I don’t know how any reasonable person can look at the history of Israel’s apartheid (I’m not going to use the sanitized terms you suggest) and come to the conclusion you’ve reached. The IDF is even shooting news reporters in cold blood to try and hide their actions.
The history simply doesn’t support it.
You can go ahead and use words wrong and continue using words wrong and I’ll continue to think you’re an idiot.
Do you have a special word for brutally murdering an innocent woman, stripping down her corpse, parading her dead body through the streets? What word can you come up with that will make this action acceptable?
Look at the video again. These are the guys you’re carrying water for. Do you want these things to continue? Is that why you support these barbarians? Why can’t you simply condemn Hamas as the evil fascist monsters they are?
Yet IDF murdering children who thrrew rocks at them, regularly, is A-OK. Fuck that.
And clearly labeled medics and press. Literal war crimes.
Calling someone an idiot just because the other doesn’t share the same view is admirable. Keep up the good work mate, keep thinking you are morally and intellectually superior just because you have been brainwashed.
Oh and by the way I think the general community somehow disagrees with your views. And keep in mind that this community is mostly concentrated in the West, making your opinion even less popular.
Maybe a bit of self reflection could do you good!
I appreciate your perspective.
Israel is an apartheid state, and the mental gymnastics people have to do in order to not acknowledge that they’re a piece of shit would be cute if we weren’t talking about genocide.
I’m not convinced this isn’t opposition propaganda.
well i woke to every comment i made yesterday about dead civilians = bad to all being heavily downvoted. if its not brigading thats responsible, lemmy as a whole needs to seriously take a look at it self if they actually think its good that civilians were being murdered on the streets in israel
The problem is the world only now seems to care about civilians being killed. Palestinian civilians are routinely killed. So it rings a bit hollow.
well i can assure you the second i see an article about the latest massacre of palestinians, i will absolutely comment and condemn it. Maybe im a weirdo but I’m simply not cool with civilians being targeted, from anywhere.
Bit different from the sickos commenting on this situation literally cheering this shit on
https://www.vox.com/2022/5/11/23067365/shireen-abu-akleh-palestinian-journalist-killed-israel
terrible news. i mean it was last year so i wouldnt have commented on it here
“Well, uh… that was last year…”
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Just for perspective https://www.ochaopt.org/poc/5-18-september-2023
I don’t think you were brigaded, you were just downvoted. It can happen when you defend genocide.
yeah. cause having an issue with civilians being murdered = defending genocide. keep those cooker opinions coming
It could be.
This is a very new story. I’m only commenting from a historical perspective.
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How so? You can confirm basically everything written here.
So I recently went to the effort to actually read some books on the situation there.
This event, and any like it, are inexcusable war crimes. Atrocious acts that cannot be justified. There have been countless war crimes on both sides of this war, unfortunately for not just the two countries involved but all the other people and countries that have been in the way (Lebanon, for one).
But these actions ARE the direct result of the oppression and genocides the Palestinian people have endured for the last century. Hamas actually had many members who advocated against such methods and well-connected members who made many attempts to negotiate through diplomatic channels, but thanks in large part to concerted propaganda efforts in the US by Israel, the war crimes committed by Israel are rarely reported as war crimes, at least in sources that most Americans would read. The Zionist movement from the start was well-funded and well-connected, and took advantage of that and their US propaganda to shut any Palestinian groups out of democratic/diplomatic channels.
Again, I’m not trying to excuse or be dismissive of the situation at hand - this is a completely inhumane, unforgivable act that makes me sick to my stomach to read about.
But I also KNOW that Israel committed war crimes last night just based on the retaliatory statements they were making - it echoes EERILY statements made by Israeli leaders prior to some of the most horrific war crimes of this war. And I know that many of those war crimes will probably go undocumented/unreported.
And again, not to justify anything, but to bring perspective: nearly 11,000 Palestinians have died in the war since 2000, to about 1,500 Israelis, and that doesn’t consider the Palestinians jailed or the many ways they are oppressed in their own land.
“You can only kick a dog so much before it snaps” - doesn’t mean a dog biting a kid that didn’t kick it is okay, but it biting the kid is still attributable to the abuse it endured which caused it to go feral.
Kino no Tabi (2003 version) episode 12 “A Peaceful Land” shows exactly the cycle of violence that goes from oppression to dragging a (mostly) uninvolved civilian through the streets.
It’s weird how indigenous people didn’t become terrorists after going through occupation. They missed the memo I guess
Didn’t they end up more or less completely wiped out?
Nice artwork. Unfortunately, murdering concert goers, Thai workers, and German tourists is terrorism, not resistance.
You and the mentally ill leftist sociopaths will follow Hamas to hell before you admit you’re wrong though.
Killing civilians is terrorism!
Correct. So let’s call terrorism terrorism and not apply that label to an entire indigenous population because members of a militant extremist group committed terrorism, mkay? Glad I had to spell that out for you.
Well put. People have been fighting over this land since 3000bc. The only thing that’s going to stop the violence between all the factions is each stopping the violence themselves. No more settlements. Roll back the illegal settlements. No more bombings, rockets, etc. Stop letting the religious fundamentalists IN BOTH SIDES run the show.
Do I think this is feasible? Historically… no. But I hope.
Palestinians really seem to have no real way to win this conflict. I’m not sure why they continue to try fighting. Is what happened to them, just losing their lands like that, unjust? Yes. But that was like 100 years ago. Isrealis are not going to go away, and they are far more powerful and organized. At this point, the Palestinian militants are just making it harder for everyone to move on, causing more pain and suffering in an endless conflict that always costs them more than their enemies.
Oppression breeds resistance.
More people will die until they stop resisting. More oppression will happen when they do more barbaric things in the name of resistance.
The Palestinians are on the losing end. The Israelis aren’t any closer to defeat.
More people will die until they stop oppressing. More resistance will happen when they do more barbaric things in the name of defense.
The Zionists are on the wrong side of history. The Palestinians aren’t any closer to giving up.
You do know that each time, the Palestinians are the ones with the larger death toll and the disadvantage in technology and equipment, right?
The “Zionists” are on the right side of history in no other means than the fact that they are surely going to outlast whatever the Palestinians has in store.
Yeah congratulations on completely missing the point of my last comment. I was making fun of how absurd and pointless your comment was.
WOW, REAAALLLYYYY? After reading multiple books on the history of the conflict, I HAD NO CLUE! Thank you for enlightening me, oh educated one!
Typical Reddit exchange recreated on Lemmy.
“Why won’t they simply give up and let us oppress them? Strange.”
Hamas literally wants to exterminate all of Israel, so I guess thanks for justifying Israel actions
Israel’s actions are unjustifiable, and for you to say otherwise shows your complete and utter lack of education on the topic at hand.
Don’t comment any more on this thread please, you’re too ignorant and will only be contributing to misinformation.
Population of Gaza is growing 3% a year. If the Israelis are committing genocide they’re not doing a very good job.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba
Well they fucked around and found out. Start a war and lose and your people get displaced, boo hoo.
Indigenous people cannot start a war defending their homeland from a settler-colonial project that seeks to destroy them as a people.
Try and use that brain of yours for more than being a headass, mkay?
If the British owned the land in that time how are Palestinians claim to the land valid?
If the British owned the colonies how are American claims to the land valid?
??? Lovely analogy except Americans were British people so the colonies went from British owned to British owned under a different government lol.
The more apt analogy would be the Indians and Manifest Destiny Or still different but pretty similar Texas and Mexico. But what can I expect from someone like you.
Britain didn’t own it, they “controlled” it as a result of the fallout of WW1 (Palestine was previously part of the Ottoman Empire).
That is Israel’s homeland
Okay Zionist, that doesn’t make them the indigenous people to the area.
Unironically this. As much as I’ll get downvoted for this: Create an apartheid state, the largest open-air prison on the planet filled with people who did nothing but be born there. Forcibly remove families from where their families had been living for generations. Brainwash your conscripted youth (so, literally all of them) into believing these people are literally less than human.
No shit they’re going to attempt to fight back. Now let’s see the completely proportional response by Israel. Will 10x the bloodshed be enough this time? Probably closer to 100x. How many innocent Palestinian civilians will be brutally murdered as a “response” to this?
When you create and foster an insurgency group within the country you LITERALLY STOLE FROM THEM, don’t be shocked when people get a little fucking upset.
So go ahead and downvote, and then continue jerking off to forcibly kicking innocent Palestinian families onto the streets, so Reuben from Lakewood New Jersey, with his dual citizenship, can “stake his claim” and move his family in.
Fucking trash government making their country illegitimate.
I’m sick and fucking tired of my taxes funding this shit. Pay for your genocide yourself, scum. Not much different than the US having deserved 9/11, people don’t like hearing the truth (and let’s be clear, I’m not justifying 9/11 attacks, just as I’m not justifying these attacks. Explaining not justifying.
The woman was German.
Why would Israel give a shit about these people murdering Germans?
If anyone would be making a measured response it should be Germany.
If it was my daughter being paraded through the streets dead, I wouldn’t be thinking about a very measured response right now. I’d probably be trying to level the entire country.
…and if it weren’t a foreign, civilian woman you probably wouldn’t have heard about it at all, unless it was your child. Even a native, civilian woman or a foreign, civilian man wouldn’t have drawn so much newsworthiness.
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I’m no fan of this guy, to put it mildly, but he was talking about Hamas. I don’t doubt this was a dog whistle, but it shows they (Israel military) know the world is looking, so they are still avoiding full on genocide talk.