I feel like I’m in such a minority of people who think DST is great.
No. I don’t like spring forward, but fall back gets me a nice boost as suddenly the sun comes up an 8 am rather than 9.
It’s winter. The sun is going to set at either four or five (where I live, it’s certainly worse other places and better others). You’re not getting daylight after work. It’s winter.
I don’t care which one we go with, but pick one and stick with it.
You kinda need the back and forth or the work day start will drift whichever way.
That’s one of my major thoughts in favor of DST.
Why would the workday start drift?
Then let employers shift hours or start times if they rely on daylight. Nothing that comes from DST is useful enough to be universally mandatory.
or the work day start will drift whichever way
What? I don’t follow.
It’s about the change being important.
If we stay on a single “time” (say standard work day starts at 4 hours before solar noon), we’ll drift the work time to start/end the work day at some appropriate time.
The issue is that what that time is that most socially useful changes greatly over the year unless you live close to the equator.
I’ve been a software engineer for eight-ish years. No matter the industry or company I work for, a few times a year I encounter some arcane bug that turns out to be caused by dst or time zones or freaking leap seconds or clocks going backwards somehow. If I had my way we would all just be on GMT.
UTC for the win
Let’s keep the normal time all year round. If you think the sun rises or sets att the wrong time, change your routine, not the time
Because the trade off isn’t worth it.
While it’s nice having extra sunshine in the morning or evening depending on the time of year, it is quite disruptive, especially with kids and working with teams across timezones etc.
But more importantly, people actually die from it. Consistently, and predictably. I can’t in good conscience support a policy which is merely “nice” for me but will literally cause other people to die.
Purely annecdotally, I definitely haven’t done any serious research on this, but I work in 911 dispatch and every time we change the clocks it seems like we get more weird calls from people who probably have mental health issues for a few days. My pet theory is that it screws up some of their medication schedules and/or throws off their circadian rhythms.
I think it just comes down to whether you appreciate more sunlight before school/work, or after.
I don’t really care how much sun there is before 8:30-ish. In fact, I hate when I try to get 1 more hour of sleep and I can’t b/c early dawn’s leaking in, so I actually prefer a later sunrise.
But when I leave work, I freaking LOVE bathing in sunlight for as long as I can, thinking “my biggest responsibilities of the day are done, and the day’s not even over yet”.
Where I’m from, standard time in winter means 6ish is pitch black - I prefer to at least have late dusk by that time.
I envy you. On the shortest days we have sunset 16-ish. Fucking sucks
no need to change the clocks for anything other than traveling to another time zone. it’s cool an all that you get another hour of sleep, but that’s for one day. switch the time forward of back causes more harm to people’s circadian rhythms than anything else. there’s seasons and there’s more darkness during winter. we lived without day lights before before the Great War and it was done away with after the war was over, but for some reason it stayed around after WWII. in my mind it just needlessly adds complications to the already complex way of life and we should be actively working that reduce that complexity.
to people’s circadian rhythms
it also causes a conflict between human time-schedule and animals like pets, livestock, and other cared for animals
Animals don’t know and don’t care for a clock change. They work with bio-rhythm and familiarization alone. (We humans do too, but put the time-schedule on top, and have to have our bio-rhythm adjust.)
Handling time series with DST can be hell in data sciences or sensors
I have a couple of “smart” things I didn’t have at the last change, and it turns out I need to change the timezone on them manually. Argh! Just pick a timezone and stick with it - it’ll make everyone’s life simpler.
Agreed.
Leap seconds are even worse. And time zones.
Thoae are for a different discussion, imo.
Completely depends on where you live. Each time zone has a “center line” where the sun is at it’s highest point at exactly 12:00. The farther east of this line you live, the more “natural” will DST be.
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I think the majority of people vote for DST because “Summer” sounds better than “Winter”.
Relevant short video for german speakers by Space Frogs: https://youtube.com/shorts/oMHd2Ad_7iI
I just want a bit more light in the most depressing time of the year.
I love daylights saving. More sun during the hours we are most active makes sense to me. And I think the children are safer walking to school in the daylight instead of dark.
