• force@lemmy.world
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        most people are probably bisexual anyways, i mean back in ye olden days anything with a hole was prone to penetration because society accepted it (don’t ask about lesbian sex tho)

    • Norah - She/They@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      9 months ago

      This is why the term “Men who have sex with Men” or MSM was coined. Trying to study the spread of HIV/AIDS was impossible before that because these men don’t identify as gay.

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      I wonder how many of them have little to no sexual or romantic interest in persons presenting as their gender? Like, I’m trying to mentally map someone who likes to engage in sexual activities with someone of the same gender and yet only really have an attraction to a part of that gender, rather than be attracted to the entirety of the person as many of us are.

      There’s gotta be a legitimate term for this.

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        I like dicks a lot more than dudes in general, I think. Dudes still kinda hot but dicks are aweaome. I just go by bi, pan might be more appropriate? Idk. Whatever

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        I’m heteroromantic and pansexual, if that’s what you mean. I’m down to have sex and attracted sexually to people, regardless of their gender, but I don’t want to date women. I don’t get butterflies about women (maybe once or twice in my life), and I just don’t have the romantic pull towards them that I do men.

        My husband is actually about the same. He’s never dated or really wanted to date men, but he does enjoy having sex with them. He tends to just identify as bi (as do I, if I’m not being really specific), but also rarely volunteers any information about it, which most people assume means straight, especially given he has a wife.

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          This makes sense. I’ve struggled to follow the different monikers and identities. Fully, I just accept people and recognize and respect what they want to be identified as to the best of my ability, and apologize if I forget as I adjust. Thank you for putting terms to it. I didn’t realize Pansexual meant that in context.

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            Yeah, the labels are a lot, which is why I generally just go with bi. I do always get a twinge, because it’s a pretty big barrier that homophobes think LGBTQA+ people are perverts, and we need to break down the idea that it’s all about sex, but then we actually use the terms that are all about sex, but the people who know enough to know that aren’t likely to be homophobic.

            Pan vs. bi is also a sticky situation, because going by etymology, bi people should be attracted to two gender poles and pan people to the entire spectrum. Most (I hope) bi people reject this and don’t see a difference between bisexuality and pansexuality, but some transphobes use it as a dog whistle. I tend to ID as bi, but if I get any kind of terf vibes, I’ll specify that I’m pan.

            Fully, I just accept people and recognize and respect what they want to be identified as to the best of my ability, and apologize if I forget as I adjust.

            That’s all we can do.