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    A chilly, distant demeanor. Is it an asshole that hates you, or is it an introvert that just wants to go home?

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    “I’m just asking questions.” Could be a child, could be a moon-landing conspiracy person.

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      Could be someone who’s genuinely trying to understand someone’s viewpoint, but it reveals inconsistencies in the other person’s logic, so they get irritated.

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        Ever since getting into arguments with strangers online stopped being fun for me, I try to be extremely polite to people when I’m asking a probably confrontational question.

        On the internet, a good amount of time people asking questions in comments sections are often just trying to show others how much they know about something in the most passive aggressively way possible, so it better to always be extra clear that you’re trying to engage on a healthy discussion.

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          Politeness online can go a very long way. Once you realise this, it honestly starts to become a bit cringe how many people are stomping around online being rude and just generally, IMO/IME, stressing everyone else out and bringing down the vibes of the place.

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      Eh, if it’s coming from an adult who should know better, I wouldn’t say it’s being misinterpreted as a sign of being an asshole.

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        E.g. Tucker Carlson is just asking questions so that he can supply his own answers to them, that he doesn’t want to suffer the obvious consequences for stating.

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      I think the big deciding factor is how they’re approaching the questions and what the questions are. Like, if someone is “just asking questions” where the questions just so happen to be a common bad faith talking point, yeah, I’m gonna assume they’re also acting in bad faith.

      Eg, leading questions are a particularly common example here. The amount of lean towards their already-decided viewpoint can vary. They might word their question to be convinced away from their viewpoint as the default (“why isn’t the moon landing fake?”), or maybe they’ll provide a statement that obviously gives more weight to their side (“the government is so untrustworthy, so how can we trust the moon landing was real?”).

      But often, they even do word the questions in a perfectly valid way, because they’re not trying to get an answer. They’re not gonna be convinced and they’re trying to get an answer. What they want to do is make someone else mistake being stumped for “this person might be right”. Eg, if someone asks you “is the moon landing real?” and you don’t actually know how to prove that it’s real, that can make you think that perhaps it wasn’t real. After all, you can’t explain how it is. But that’s a fallacy. You not being able to explain it has nothing to do with whether or not it’s real. Asking questions is cheap and easy. It takes no time investment compared to answering or understanding an answer. That makes it effective for planting seeds of doubt. And of course, people should think critically, but many folks aren’t going to or aren’t don’t have the time. So they’ll retain this low effort seed of doubt and that’s it.

      Plus of course, searching for these questions, especially leading ones, can get you to fall into conspiracy theory or alt right echo chambers, which will have the leading question included in multiple times and technically is a better match from a pure SEO point of view. Search engines do try and train themselves against the common leading questions, but they often have to do that explicitly. This is actually an area where search engines like DuckDuckGo do worse at. You’re more likely to have a leading question in the top results because, again, it really is the most accurate match for that question. Should search engines direct you to the correct results or should they direct you to the results that are most accurate for what you searched for? Nobody really agrees and it’ll be criticized either way (personally, I think that correctness is far more important because otherwise the search engines propagates misinformation).

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    Not being a conversational person.

    I don’t do small talk very well and I very quickly run put of things to say to someone I don’t know so I don’t like to just talk rubbish with someone, I prefer to remain quiet and get on with what I am doing.

    I don’t mean that the person isn’t worth talking to or I don’t like them, if they need something from me or have a question then I’ll galdly answer or help them, but almost everyone takes it as a slight against them when i dont want to engage in idle chit chat and assume I’m an arsehole when I’m really not trying to be.

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      listen, as someone who needs to be social but isnt, it is ok to let there be awkward silences. it is ok.

      it isn’t your job to be entertaining. conversation is a 2 way road.

      contribute, motherfucker

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        No. You’re not mandated to listen me ramble about free will, artificial intelligence or simulation theory and I’m not mandated to listen your thoughts about the weather or see pictures of your child.

        Conversation is a two way road so when you notice that it’s only flowing to one direction then take the hint and move on.

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        People don’t need to talk to you if they don’t want to People are so selfish just let people be some of use are on the spectrum and don’t want to be forced into dumb conversations just because you can’t be quite for a few hours

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      It took me way too long to realize when someone asks how my weekend was it’s because they want to talk about their weekend

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      My trick is earbuds. Even if I’m not listening to anything. Also helps to be living in a country where you’re not generally supposed to go talk to strangers

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      It’s bizarre to me how many people assume that disabilities must be visible. And not just visible, but that it has to be glaringly visible.

      You’d think that it’d be well known that visibilities might not be obvious, but nope.

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        I have an invisible, part-time disability. I used to have a wheelchair and a handicapped hang tag, but I got rid of the tag because it wasn’t worth getting hassled everywhere I parked. Thankfully, the medication is helping and I haven’t needed the wheelchair in a very long time, but that doesn’t mean I won’t need it tomorrow.

        It’s like people want any excuse to be a righteous jackass.

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      In particular, women are more likely to be viewed as “bitchy”, “bossy”, etc for doing the exact same thing that a man could do without being considered as such.

      So it’s not just women speaking up, but also that there’s a gender imbalance in how that speaking up can be viewed.

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        That can go either direction though. Sometimes the women are being unfairly judged for reasonable behaviour a man wouldn’t be challenged for. Sometimes the women are being judged for unreasonable behaviour that a man would be unfairly unchallenged for.

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      To be fair though, sincerity without empathy is just assholeness. There are way to many people justifying their asshole behaviors with “being sincere”.

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        Sometimes there are moments where some people have different life experiences which lead to different stimuli of insight. These people may potentially take criticism roughly and may need some easing and gentleness. Such people may have the tendency to withdraw or lose confidence upon hearing relatively short messages with no emotional context and then perceive them having negative intent or feeling that they are not worth you time. They may want to talk to sit and form connections instead of pure efficiency of communication. (/s?)

        I enjoy shaping bushes. Great memories.

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          That is true. And on the other hand, or perhaps just by handling their experiences differently, we have those who dislike or even might be offended by being “babyed” or carefully handled/talked down to, and would much rather have an up front interaction where they feel mutually respected.

          Both kinds of people exist, and that is fine. One must just not mistake soft language as universal tool that can be used everywhere, or risk standing out as an “asshole”.

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            What a nice and beautiful response, asshole!

            (Sorry… Couldn’t help myself. I’m sure you’re a lovely person)

            As someone below commented, empathy matters. Knowing the audience is key, whether you’re giving the middle finger or giving a thank you speech.

            You reminded me of this moment: https://youtu.be/up0d6cZQhIU

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    The fact that they have a record.

    Look for a pattern, not a single instance. And yet companies and people hold bad decisions of the past against most folks.

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      Massive one. People automatically assume those who have defined areas that others are not allowed to access (ie personal/physical contact, topics of communication, literal areas they restrict in their home, etc) are prudish and being willfully obstinate for unfounded reasons, without considering why these boundaries are set in the first place.

      The second you inconvenience someone, they assume you’re the problem.

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    Well for one, I wish I could tell people no when they ask me to social events without being interpreted as an asshole

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          Honestly, in a situation like this, I don’t care. If I’m busy, I’m busy. And if politely telling them that is seen as rude, it’s not me who’s the problem.

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          I don’t know anyone who doesn’t understand the concept of “I’m busy tonight.” Nor have I ever heard of someone thinking it’s rude to not always be available.

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          But if you have no intention to then you’re just lying and now you’re actually being an asshole instead of just being thought to be one

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      I once had a coworker tell me he wasn’t going to a company event because he “was working on saying no to things.” I thought that was really cool. Not sure how well it would work though for, say, saying no to a friend’s invite 🤷‍♂️

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      I tell people this all the time. But I have to. It’s like… If I don’t, I won’t know if I’m still real.

      I was on the train once headed into the city. A dude getting off the train looks me dead in the eye and says “never trust unsolicited advice” and then stepped through the door.

      That was it. That was the entire interaction. Completely blew my mind. I did ultimately decide it was legitimate advice. But still, it was wild being told not to trust the advice I was receiving.

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        The fun thing about that is the dude gave you paradoxical advice. If you take theiradvice and don’t trust unsolicited advice, then you are trusting unsolicited advice. If you don’t take their advice then you are following their advice by not trusting unsolicited advice.

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          Right? It’s why it blew my goddamn mind. I wonder if someone dropped that bomb on him the same way a long time ago and now I’m supposed to pay it forward

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          That man knew exactly what he was doing. He’s still probably out there. Causing minor bouts of chaos along the commuter network of the greater metropolitan Washington, DC area

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        I resonate with your “won’t know if I’m real” feeling.

        Something happens to you and it’s actually useful lesson. If a tree falls… How can you not share?

        That’s a great encounter… Would be fun to give chaotic good nudges to strangers.

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      Unrequested advice is always taken for criticism. Don’t do it. Ask first. “May I give you fome advice?”

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      Reminds of a post a few days ago, that described how people think you’re condescending and sit on a high horse, just because you use some fancy words here and there.

      Meanwhile I’m just trying to describe something with as much detail as possible, because it’s important to convey exactly what I mean.

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        I find treading the line between people thinking I’m talking down to them vs them thinking I’m pretentiously trying to seem smarter than them exhausting. It’s a stupid game where I try really hard not to unintentiont piss people off and they get offended and resentful anyway because I dared to try to communicate with them but failed to perfectly thread the needle of how to speak to them on a level they are comfortable with.

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          I’m at a point where I just don’t care anymore. If someone can’t appreciate that my intention is to improve their understanding of the matter, then they can suck my nuts, and fuck off.

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      Being vague and expecting everyone to know what you mean with a particular acronym. HFAYQT? 🤷‍♂️

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    Someone who’s assertive (not to be mistaken for someone who thinks they’re assertive and really is just an asshole).

    Someone offering constructive criticism.

    Especially those two put together.

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        I have a friend that’s always late, like literally always. I tried to put myself in his shoes because he’s got 2 small kids and that should be extremely exhausting, but I don’t think he even tries anymore.

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          I’m perpetually late. Trying to arrive on time to things I don’t occupies so much of my head. I try to build in buffer time for emergencies. And every single time I’m still late. I don’t even have two kids. If your friend is anything like me, arriving late fills him with guilt every single time, and the two kids are factors of chaos in planning that simply cannot ever be fully accounted for

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            Reframe the way you think. Stop trying to arrive on time, and just commit to arriving early. I’ve easily arrived an hour early to appointments and just lounged around on reddit or read a book. I’d rather waste an hour of my time, than 15 minutes of a friend’s (if you have an appointment with a group, multiply time you are late by # of people).

            This is what we mean when we say people who are constantly late don’t care about wasting other people’s time. Even if they don’t intend it, they are still choosing to prioritise themselves over others.

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          But if you’re constantly late it means that you don’t care about wasting other people’s time… Kinda assholeish

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              There is a straightforward, but not always simple for everyone, solution.

              Communication.

              If you’re always going to be late then either communicate a realistic time frame (eg, could be there between 1 and 3pm depending on how difficult the kids/traffic/knee pain etc is today)

              You may not intend to but if you’re constantly late then you are disrespecting the other parties time and that’s not ok. Let them know what’s going on, let them make other choices, don’t tie them to a commitment you agreed to but can’t keep. Communication is key.

              You’re allowed to be late, just set proper expectations and give people their time back.

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                My partner used to be very frustrating like that. She’d rock up 30-60 minutes late to do something and then always have reasons or excuses why, some better than others. All it takes is for you have the common courtesy to tell me, rather than leave me to get increasingly irritated over the course of an hour when I can basically do nothing. Thankfully, things improved a lot after some particularly crummy instances.

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              You don’t have to find apologies for everything. Blaming everything on “daemons” is just externalizing a problem so you don’t have to deal with it.

            • No one is perfect, nor should try to be. Asking someone to have enough consideration for others to not show up late to everything isn’t asking for perfection.

              We have zero idea what someone else is going through.

              You’re right. That applies to you as well. Everyone has to put effort into showing up and most people have obstacles to deal with.

              Sorry but your struggles aren’t more important than anyone else’s. Not less, but also not more. You’re not a martyr for showing up. If you struggle with physical or mental issues, I’m sorry, I hope you’re getting help and have a good support system.

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          Well, youd be surprised… I definitely know people that leave the house past the time they were supposed to be somewhere with a nonchalant attitude “theyll wait, its nbd”

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            No, almost all of us are trying to be on time. But that’s balanced by other concerns, like making sure we leave the house prepared, and taking public transit, and the needs of the people we’re leaving as well as the people we’re going to. There isn’t always an “earlier” we can leave by, and not everyone is in charge of their own schedule.

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              None of what you’re describing is “not trying to be on time”.

              You’re describing an “all” situation using very specific events. You’re also describing a poorly planned arrangement if the time you’re expected to arrive at something is not realistic for you to be there. That’s different to someone not trying to be on time to something that they otherwise could be and aren’t.

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          I’m sure someone does but sure. But there’s a difference between someone who’s not trying to be late and someone who actually tries not to be late.

          Someone who’s habitually late can’t be bothered to even try to respect your time. To me that’s a bit assholish.

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      In Spain it’s a way of life. If I’m 10 minutes late for something I just call it Spanish On Time.

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      Hey I think you need to change your username. Musk baggsied that font for twitter, I mean X.