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Roll out nation wide end to sub minimum wage and encourage an end to tipping culture at the same time!
Tipping has gotten worse over the past few years with all the touch screens they turn around which have a tip option on them. Are we expected to tip for someone setting a bag on a counter?
Just hit the “no tip” button and move on with life. Sure, it’s dumb that it even comes up; but, it’s very likely a case of software set at it’s defaults and the management thinking, “why not?”
I’m one of the suckers who always tips, but I also worry that those tips aren’t actually getting to the workers. I would much prefer a system that just pays them a living wage!
when i’m that worried about the tips getting to the right hands, i tip in cash. its a small inconvenience to carry some cash but then i know its going into the employee’s hand. might just be a placebo, but what else can i do lol
I do it too, because I don’t know how the restaurant works. Does it go to the person at the register? Does it go to the cooks who actually did the work to make the meal? Does it go to the owner… who isn’t supposed to accept tips?
I do it out of guilt, because they’re sitting there looking at you. But then I resent the whole system afterward and feel like a dope.
I don’t even know what the tipping rules are anymore. It’s just needs go away.
The economic attraction of working for tips was that they were in cash. Most people don’t carry cash anymore, and they all pay with cards.
The world changed and it adapted to keep corporate profits. None of them gave a second thought to people who work to pay their bills. The people whose time and effort made them rich in the first place.
Or end up with an even worse tipping culture after the change anyway, like in Canada
Stupidest shit
“The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) sets the minimum base wage at $2.13 per hour,…”
tells me all I need to know about this story
No doubt that’s why it passed.
That’s fairly common. At least in New England.
The way it works is there’s the tipped worker minimum wage, and if that + their tips fails to meet the local minimum, the employer is obligated to pay the difference.
So, $2.13/hr for a 4-10 shift is $12.78.
Chicago minimum wage is $15.80/hr. For a 6 hr shift, that’s $94.80.
So if the employee didn’t get $82.02 in tips that shift, the owner would have to cover that difference.
That is probably roughly what is made in tips on an above average 4 top in Chicago.
Don’t get me wrong, industry workers are severely underpaid. If the restaurants didn’t feed them most would probably not be able to afford rent.
This change seems like it will just hurt restaurants, not help employees meaningfully, and raise menu prices.
Someone in the industry in Chicago please correct me if I’m wrong about that initial assumption, because that’s how it works in Boston, Portland, and a few others in New England.
Edit: lots of downvotes for explaining how it works. Cool platform! Glad to be here.
I’m a bartender of 12 years. Just telling y’all how it fucking works. Christ.
I love in Seattle where it is the same minimum wage for tipped workers as it is for everyone else at $16.50/hr for small employers. They predicted a restaurant Armageddon. Guess what did not happen?
As for prices at restaurants, they are basically the same as any other large city.
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They’re only obligated if they think they’ll get caught not doing it.
The change doesn’t outlaw tips. So now they’re getting better base pay, plus tips, and the owner is still paying the absolute minimum instead of slave wages. If ANY company can’t afford minimum wage they shouldn’t be in business. And honestly fuck you for being more concerned about the business than actual people.
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It’s bullshit. Tips are supposed to be a bonus for good work, not your actual wage.
Yeah agreed. I’m just saying this change doesn’t address that very much.
Just because the employer is legally obligated to do something doesn’t mean that it often works that way in practice.
Excellent progress! Now we can conscionably stop tipping in Chicago too :)
Not immediately, they’re easing into it, 8% at a time, over the next few years, until it reaches parity with the standard minimum.
Ending tipping will mean going much higher than minimum wage for nicer restaurants.
it sucks so much fucking ass living in a state that goes red 30 seconds after polls close, seeing other states pass progressive legislation that makes a meaningful, material, positive difference in people’s lives – while we’re urgently rushing through fucking trans panic book banning horseshit
And the great part is that the more blue states pass reforms that are needed everywhere, the more it becomes a red state problem that no one in a blue state has any incentive to try to fix on a national level.
Of the 8 Democrats who made their utter contempt for workers known by voting against the minimum wage increase, all but two were from states that have a minimum wage higher than 7.25/hr. And the two were both from the same state.
