Roughly $11.1 trillion has been wiped away from the U.S. stock market since Jan. 17, the Friday before President Donald Trump took the oath of office and began his second term, according to data from Dow Jones Market Data.

Some $6.6 trillion of that figure was lost on Thursday and Friday alone — the largest two-day wipeout of shareholder value on record, Dow Jones data showed.

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    I’m 41 years old, I’ll be 42 in a few weeks, I’m getting really tired of living through these “once in a lifetime events” every 24-48hrs.

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      Total sidebar: You should re-read The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy when you turn 42!

      That’s what I did. Now I’ll never forget the last time I read the series.

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        Yeppp. Also makes me really distrust mainstream economists, because somehow these crashes always come as a surprise.

        Like what we’re doing is not working. We need to try something else

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      Companies are going to lay off loads of people and close any department that costs too much just to increase the stock price again. For investors stock price is everything and they don’t care much about consequences.

      USA stock market crashing means the dollar is getting less worth compared to other currencies, so anything imported gets more expensive in the USA, what is most items. Things getting more expensive means less people buying stuff, less economic activity so more layoffs.

      All those layoffs means people can’t pay back there debt. Trump doesn’t care about people in debt and somehow makes it worse. Banks get in trouble. Trump cares about banks and big businesses so they get bailed out. Taxes on everybody else increases to pay for bailouts.

      To distract from all this, Trump starts challenging China and it leads to war. Marshall law is called and Trump starts funneling more money to the military making things even worse.

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        You say that as if it won’t likely affect you as well. Even if you’re not American, the next decade will be worse financialy than the last. There are probably some exceptions, but not many.

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          I’d be fine with that if it was for some grand project, like reversing climate change or wiping out global poverty, but it’s not.

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    We’re entering Once in a Lifetime Recession #5. Buckle up folks. The feds up shits creek and has been since COVID, so no cash bailouts are coming anytime soon. This should be a fun one!

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      Or regular people all losing money they had invested

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        I have parents who are near retirement who voted for trump. Only my dad works and has to support my mom. This upcoming weekend, I’m gonna ask him how his portfolio is looking. If his vote is paying off.

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        There’s more people who don’t have investments than there are that do. That includes 401k. Welcome to the poor people’s club.

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          50% of the country has a 401k and like 40% has an IRA… They are not worth much, that is the point the poor people can’t afford to get more poor, the rich people can. they’ve realized theres nothing else their money can buy so their happy to destroy the world out of boredom. And you cheer them on.

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          Even if this were true, are you pretty much saying everyone that had a 401k can f off? Like, what exactly is your point? It’s okay for everyone to suffer?

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            Source that’s not so heavily “invested” in the answer perhaps? I can’t read this ad-ridden garage.

            Is it enough to stay that most Americans stocks are the smallest of their saving vehicles? Most people have the bulk of value in their home not their 401k.

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              Correct. Which makes sense when you consider home prices have gone up alot in the last 20 years, and an unaware investors portfolio is probably being slowly bled off by covering the mortgage of that house every time we go into a recession which is basically on a 2 year cycle now.

              So yes you are right, and you are so smart and a very good boi. But you are missing the bigger picture of American wealth distribution. Missing out on how jobs are tied to the market, income is needed for investment and selling investments when you lose your job and they are down 50% just shoots most of the country into poverty.

              Surprise its the great depression!

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        Dude how many of the 49% of USA citizens who can’t even handle a 1k USD emergency spend have stocks or options

        How many of the 120 million people who have feared for years that they won’t get to enjoy their social security have stocks or options

        Because that’s the regular people

        Are you even reading yourself

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          I’m sorry to tell you but everyone is screwed except the billionairs who will just buy everything for pennies on the dollar. What do you think companies will do when their stocks are crashing? They will lay off more people until they inevitably go belly up and then all of those people are out of jobs. Shit is about to get real.

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          401ks are invested. People losing their retirement funds. I personally don’t have any because I had to use mine up last time I was between jobs for a year, but many innocent people who aren’t rich and voted against Trump are being hurt as well.

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          Millions of people have 401k plans through their employers and have had them for years and are counting on them to live when they retire.

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          Well over 49% of usa Americans make enough to save a thousand dollars . Many are just that bad at managing money. Part of why pensions are important over 401ks.

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            the deep irony of slashing pensions for 401k claiming that americans could invest better for their own retirement. They are not cheering crashing 401ks and rushing to cut social security like they also have a concept of a plan for retirement.

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            buddy 401k contributions come out of your paycheck. you can’t equate one with the other. Most people usually check the box to take taxes and contributions out of their paycheck and don’t consider their retirement account emergency savings.

            the point your missing is it often is. and it usually equates to to stock market losses. So stock market crashes are when the rich make the poor poorer.

            Yet here you poors go cheering on everyones grandma to starve to death. Far left and far right horseshoe death cult assemble.

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      Unfortunately I sincerely doubt a lot of them have retirement savings of any significance. There’s a reason Red States are a bigger draw on federal money than Blue States. But if there’s any consolation, once the food prices start hitting again they’ll take notice.

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        My MAGA friends on Facebook are yelling about “buying opportunities”.

        Where is that buying money coming from? I got none myself.

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          Just as well as this sure as hell isn’t a buying opportunity, some indexes are only at 6 month lows. We’ve barely begun loses wise - 12% off all time highs on the S&P if I recall right, 50% is realistic in my mind

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    Wow, $11 trillion is a lot. Really puts the $36 trillion sitting liquid in offshore tax havens into perspective (yet seems to be missing from every conversation about money.)

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      I know your right in saying people vote like Trump was the conservative, but Harris was really the conservative. Trump was the populist autocratic. thinking the GOP is the conservative party is crazy to me. They haven’t been in a long ass time. You want status quo and security for your money and livelyhood? Don’t vote for the populist who has ‘‘ideas’’ about how the country should REALLY be ran.

      That’s how you get Pol Pot shutting down food imports because he wanted higher domestic food production, you know BEFORE they could make enough food to feed everyone without the imports. All the other autocrat or populist that instantly rammed a country into the ground also had a cult that made them entirely delusional.

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        That’s how you get Pol Pot shutting down food imports because he wanted higher domestic food production, you know BEFORE they could make enough food to feed everyone without the imports.

        This really is exactly what trump is doing. He’s slinging tariffs around like that will spur US industries (and as a petty attempt at being a strongman) and farming but giving those industries zero lead time, and on top of that, the tariffs he imposed are going to affect all of the materials and machinery those industries would need to ramp up their production. And on true insulated tyrant fashion he just makes a declaration and then it’s everyone else’s problem to deal with.

        Dude’s a fucking idiot.

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        Amen you right. America is so far right wing, thats why any small help for the common worker or man they all scream socialism or communism.

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      It was projection once again. It turns out being anti-woke is indeed the path to poverty

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          Lose 75 out of a 100 billion? Still plenty of money to consolidate failing businesses and buy real estate for cheap.

          Can’t afford it? Too big to fail, government loans and bailouts.

          This has happened before and the wealthy just get more in the end.

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      I mean, to be fair, most of the genocide already happened before election day under Biden, but yes, there will definitely be more as long as the AIPAC bribes keep flowing-- and no one is talking about shutting those down. I believe the last person (JFK) to try to deal with this by relisting AIPAC as a foreign agency was assassinated shortly afterward. RFK also tried and he was also killed.

      Which is nothing but a coincidence I’m sure, the zionists would never do something like that. And christians in the US are close friends and allies of Israelis, right.

      https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-761490

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        already happened

        Watching the ‘genocide Joe’ crowd cope with the fact they supported the turbo genocide candidate will never not be funny to me (In the grim irony kind of way).

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          The genocide Joe crowd think the Israel/Palestine war started October 2023. They aren’t very smart.

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          I’m always a bit fascinated that theres so few of us that see it this way. The killings definitely happened, the US definitely helped. Seems pretty factual. And yet the pushback on these facts with the US crowd is extreme and seemingly very emotional for the pro zionist crowd-- which is not in line with what the rest of the world thinks.

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          I’m not sure why you refuse to hold him and his administration accountable. Genocide Joe is an apt name for someone that chose to give more importance to genocide then he did to representing his voters and this country in general.

          They sabotaged their own election so Israel can break child death records. He could have simply told Israel to fuck off. I’d rather blame them then normal people that felt conflicted about genocide of all things.

          Holding them accountable is also the only way we get real change.

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        So… “to be fair” what you’re claiming, is that there’s little genocide left for Trump to commit, and then- a bunch of conspiracy theories.

        It’s a damn good thing you people argue so diligently on the side of reality. It really helps drive that batshit insane ideology of yours home.

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            Trump could open the doors of hell and it would still be no excuse for having voted for evil.

            Do you view “evil” as a binary value or a numerical value that can be counted?

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          So… “to be fair” what you’re claiming, is that there’s little genocide left for Trump to commit

          Thats a good demonstration of strawmanning. Putting up a contrived BS argument then knocking it down. Come on, can’t you do better than that?
          Thats just lazy.

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            I’m not the one that said it. The onus is on you to state your point in a way that makes sense. And what you said, is that:

            “most of the genocide already happened before election day under Biden.”

            If you want to make a straw man by accusing me of making a straw man, be my guest. But that won’t change the original argument, nor will it change the fact that it seems others agree with me on this.

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              I literally quoted you, and you did not quote me. So now you’re just lying. Time for a username block.

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                Literal quote….

                “most of the genocide already happened before election day under Biden.”

                • you literally said this. But if it helps to use a more direct and unequivocal approach:

                If you are confused by what you’re seeing, that is a screenshot of your actual words.

                And- blocked or not, I think this needed to be said so that anyone unfortunate enough to have to interact with you, might come across this conversion in an attempt to make sense of… you,

                …and it helps illustrate to them exactly what they’re dealing with.

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        I mean no disrespect, because we are writing sentences that we never intended to write, but Jesus Christ, “most of the genocide already happened (…) under Biden”. It’s utterly depressing. I’m really disappointed that American citizens worked very hard for this to happen, but it feels also like a consequence of something bigger, as if there was a bipartisan dictatorship or something even deeper, in which parties are just knights or bishops.

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    Let’s see if he can make that number $111 Trillion lost by the end of May 2025.