In the caption of the Instagram post, he wrote, “An old white woman got on the train and immediately pointed at me and told me to correct how I was sitting. I refused, so she went to the conductor and complained. The conductor called the police and stopped the train,” he said.
O’Keefe also says in the caption that the friend of the woman who called the police had said to him, “You’re not the minority anymore.”
A separate video about the incident has been uploaded by the user, Nalae, on TikTok, where it has quickly gone viral, having been viewed over 160,000 times as of reporting.
They said I was disturbing the peace by not leaving the train. They pulled me off the train and arrested me without even talking to the Karen who reported the one black person on the train. On the platform, the police detained me and interrogated me. Only black folks stayed nearby and recorded the arrest. When I demanded a lawyer and reminded them they didn’t even take a statement from the woman who complained they eventually released me. This country is growing more psycho by the day. What will you do about it?"
This is what happens when a malignant narcissist emboldens abd enables the racist sociopaths.
whoever wrote the article sucks
“You’re not the minority anymore.”
Jesus fucking Christ.
This says so much. They think “minority” means a person who gets special treatment. That’s how fucking deluded they’ve become.
That… explains so much. Racists are fucking jealous that black people get to be oppressed??? Is it like some martyrdom by proxy fuckedupedness?
Sorta. I was raised with this bullshit, so I can see the distortion of reality. I’m still unpacking all this in therapy myself, because it’s a whole worldview.
First off, they’re woefully uneducated about history. My high school in Oklahoma briefly touched on the Civil Rights Movement and tried to pass it off as something that was over and done. Rosa Parks got arrested, the white people were shocked that this could happen, they had a sit-in party at a milkshake stand (they didn’t talk about any of the pushback that got), MLK did his speech and now everything is fine for black people, no more institutional racism, literally being taught in schools. Now, combine that with your own needs not being met, and the talking heads/politicans say that you’re not getting the aid you need because it’s going towards making hurt feelings better. There’s only so much money in the coffers, and you gotta be really hard up if you’re white, but it’s easy to get if you’re black.
There’s also a heavy religious framing about ancestral guilt. Like, if God can make life suck for everybody because Eve ate an apple, and libs are trying to play god, it follows to reason they’d want to make your life suck for the sins of your great-great-great grandparents. It’s never outright stated, but if you listen to enough sermons, the puzzle fills in. Like, again, they think the civil rights movement fixed everything, so they think white people have atoned for their transgressions, but the pastor says libs are in consort with satan and can’t forgive like jesus, so that’s why they want white people to suffer.
I appreciate you identifying where in the GOP’s propaganda they lead young people astray.
People like you doing a retrospective autobiopsy via therapy can help those of growing up in other contexts protect young people from propaganda, and distribute to them the truth.
Speak your truth! It’s only becoming more important as time goes on in this increasingly fascistic world.
My favorite part of this is the only people making the ignorant racist lives suck are the Republicans taking everything not the left asking them to be tolerant…
This is why the term “color blind” is used by someone trying to go the right way, but still not getting it, which leads to the ignorance of their racism. In being blind you are blind to the fact that racism still exist and isn’t fixed. Then that leads to incorrect beliefs like “minorities are getting special priveleges and when they don’t have the same quality of life it is because of their own poor behavior” as opposed to acknowledging the systemic racism still in place.
Sometimes, but not always. I used to call myself colorblind, but I could see how the cops treated my black friends worse than they treated me. At one point, they rounded us up waiting at the bus stop (there was an abandoned restaurant by the bus stop, and the cops said we were trying to break in), and all my POC friends got frisked, but I was the only blonde girl, so I just got a talking to about how “hanging out with the wrong crowd will ruin my life”. Some of those kids are working on their PhD now, so “wrong crowd”, kiss my ass.
I understood “colorblind” as a “skin tone has no bearing on how I interact with you, we’re all human”.
I always thought that “everybody gets treated the same at first, adjust as we go along” was respectful, but then moved to the west coast and it’s apparently a horribly racist thing to do here, and I don’t understand why?? Something about how black people are going through struggles I can’t understand, but I also thought that everybody had struggles I don’t know about?
Like, if I don’t make assumptions about somebody in a wheelchair, it’s a good thing and not ableist, but if I don’t make assumptions about a black person, it’s a bad thing and racist? I have never been able to understand how people up here think it’s less racist to stereotype an ethnicity.
There’s also the problem with white “leftists” up here not actually knowing any POC and getting it from fucking facebook memes. Like, I had a white person once tell me, in all seriousness, that me saying “hey, what’s up” is appropriating AAVE and the correct thing to say in greeting to a black person is “I see and respect our differences”. I said that sounded patronizing as fuck, and she said I should join the kkk with that attitude.
Unlearning racism has been an awful experience, really. I’m listening to what black people say they want, but that’s somehow still racist, and I’m so close to just giving up and doing what feels right to me.
Colorblind is removing their identity.
You are still a black, white, brown, etc. person (I’m using {color} from now on cause I don’t want to type an array of colors each time). The person’s experiences as a {color} person are valid.
While you shouldn’t treat someone different because they are {color}, you should validate that they ARE different and celebrate those differences in an appropriate fashion.
It’s like a friend coming out to you and you reply “I don’t care”, while that is not the worst way to respond and you mean well, you are invalidating WHO they are.
I think this is much more eloquently illustrates my point: https://youtu.be/91O7q7D4xnU
Consider therapy. It helps
Consider therapy. It helps
Thanks, you must have missed where I said I’m slowly unpacking all this in therapy. My therapist says I’m doing good, and that I’m not a racist monster because I’m putting in the effort, but that doesn’t seem to be a common definition. In any case, I don’t call myself colorblind any more, even if I don’t understand why, people do react poorly, so I don’t do it any more. This is retrospective.
It’s like a friend coming out to you and you reply “I don’t care”, while that is not the worst way to respond and you mean well, you are invalidating WHO they are.
But when I called myself ‘colorblind’ I wasn’t saying “I don’t care”, I was saying “Okay, tell me what that means”.
Like, when I came out, I absolutely hated how big of a deal people made about it. I had people “validate that I was different”, but it felt like they were just making fun of me for being different because it was all weirdly patronizing. All this nonsense about “it’s okay that you like boys and girls, you’re still my friend” when I’m an adult who is into men and women, and I wouldn’t have started hanging out with you if I thought you didn’t like gay people? I’m still me, I haven’t changed, and stroking my ego is just telling me that you feel weird around me now that you know I’m not ‘normal’.
I still felt stereotyped and unwelcome, even though they were being “inclusive”, and I don’t want to do that to black people. I don’t understand why that’s racist.
They honestly think that black people and minorities have it on easy street.
thats because they are afraid of the power and riches they accumulated through subjugating minorities, will be used against them in retribution, so they go the extra mile , with the help aristocrats/oligarchs to keep the status quo. also white people are extra defensive when discussing racism as well. even if they arnt outwardly racist(closeted racist), i witness how they act around people that are not white , especially when they either look or approach near them.
during covid, like in the midst of it a older white lady dint like i was getting on the train the same time i was, she said it was not nice to go before “an older lady”, i muttered bitch under my breath, you would do that to another white man or lady, but you would do that to a POC, because you will get immediate clapback from a white person over a POC. AS FAR as covid was concerned she wasnt masked, or properly masked. the entrance to train was large enough where 2 people can get on the same time.
on reddit, people said racist white people like that are afraid they do the same thing to them, of how they persecuted the blacks, so they act extra “im not racist, your being racist for calling out my race”. they also try to deflect white privilege as a non-existential issue.
Yep. It’s like a child fighting for the attention of an abusive parent.
Its a tale as old as time that they’d strip protections against racism, implement racist laws, and then pretend as if slavery was so long ago that it didn’t matter anymore. It was literally happening not a decade after the Civil War ended
Cops are racists.
They should be made to understood what it means to be a minority if they want that status.
I mean what the actual fuck?!? If this is only half as egregious as this is being portrayed I wish I had been there. I would have told that old white Karen to shut the fuck up. And I don’t even know who this dude is. And I’m an old white dude.
Us old white dudes have a responsibility to get involved in these events.
Exactly…
The only thing better is some old white grandma getting involved. Pretty sure sweet old ladies outranks an old “Susan”.
I’m only 42 but I hope to be brave enough one day to be such a “sweet old lady” who kicks some ass.
Sounds like there’s a market for “Comfy Steel-toed Boots For Ass Kicking Old Ladies”. Let me find that 100k I put under my mattress…
I know cops are scary, but white people need to realise their power in a situation like this. Being white gives you like a +80% modifier in interactions with the police. Even just getting in the space and being a clueless white dude asking questions spreads that modifier to allies in proximity, including those being arrested.
By getting involved you raise the expectation of civility, because our fucking society is racist.
“I was there and heard that Karen screaming (fill in a bunch of racist shit). She said no one would take his word for it. You see that trash on the ground? She threw it at him and missed. He was minding his own business and tried to walk away, but she wouldn’t let him be. Then she started going on about (aliens or jewish lasers or some real schizo shit). I think she’s having a breakdown or fit.”
Can confirm. I regularly cuss out and yell at cops that are harassing homeless people, not even violating their rights, other than their 14th amendment rights to freedom of movement.
There are clips online of crazy white people straight up attacking the cops, and the cops are just like “well shit, now what?”
and i witness cops and security guards(in stores like target) dont confront white people the same way they do POCs, and some white believe that isnt true or they think they are recieving it just as bad.
Indeed and I do (60, 6’2" 100kg white guy) here in Australia, and it’s most often some old white entitled woman. (My 82 yr oldmother is one of these, she doesnt think our First Nations people should be allowed on the same sidewalk as her)
Problem is I then get called out for being a pedo/rapist , this has happened a couple times for calling out some racist bitch.
He literally says he refused to sit right on the MTAs seats. They decided how he was sitting was not appropriate conduct and HE refused to adjust for the MTA.
You don’t get to put your feet up on the seats just because you’re a “celebrity writer”, or black, or have a tiktok.
If you refuse their rules, they can refuse you service.
He literally says he refused to sit right on the MTAs seats.
No he did not. This is what he said.
this white woman said she didn’t like the way I was sitting on the train."
Yes, trains have rules… Like elections…
And if your sense of rules breaks down, your country might turn to shit.
I don’t know how to tell you this buddy…
Hehe, yeah… When even the Holocaust museum is self censoring, there might be err… Something wrong.
Slippery slope. First people are putting their feet up and then we descend into chaos. That’s pretty unhinged theory.
Yeah, we get that. The thing is, there’s no rule that says how you should sit on a train, that’d be ridiculous (ofc you shouldn’t invade other seats or put your feet on them).
The article explains that an entitled white woman told a black man that she didn’t like the way he was sitting, and because the white is always right in America, that poor man got pulled out from the train and arrested: no questions asked whatsoever.
Imagine that someone tells you “I don’t like the way you word your comments” and then you get reported and banned for that without way to defend yourself; it’s the same here except that this involves racism.
there’s no rule that says how you should sit on a train
Yes there is.
How often is that rule applied equally across all riders and by all conductors?
Was the specific rider caught doing this singled out for a specific reason? Was it a random selection?
Should riders enforce rules, or should that be left up to the conductors?
A rule only exists if it is enforced.
It’s probably applied whenever a conductor is told… And that is the conductor enforcing the rules.
How was he sitting that was so improper?
Riders may not lie down or place feet on the seat of a train, bus or platform bench or occupy more than one seat. Riders may not place bags or personal items on seats.
Conveniently left out that it’s a $50 fine and not removal or arrest.
Yes, you’d have to escalate and be beligerent to have that happen. Happens everyday, with people who don’t believe themselves celebrities.
Oh no! He’s getting mad because he’s getting removed for no reason! Very stupid.
You’ve been told the reason Sir, and given the option of moving your feet.
Since you’re in here making claims, I’m positive you have a source that backs your started claim up? Something I’m sure you’d love to share with the rest of the class? Hmm? Got some proof…?
That the issue was how he was sitting, and that he refused to change that is not disputed by anyone in the story.
He states it himself:
An old white woman got on the train and immediately pointed at me and told me to correct how I was sitting. I refused, so she went to the conductor and complained.
The MTA isn’t a country club, they deal with people of every race everyday. They also deal with people refusing the rules everyday.
Show me where he violated your holy rules. I’ll wait. “The old bag said so” doesn’t count as a source, young man, so, it won’t be accepted as one.
if the MTA worker also decides you’re in the wrong, then you’re in the wrong…
"An old white woman got on the train and immediately pointed at me and told me to correct how I was sitting. I refused, so she went to the conductor and complained. The conductor called the police and stopped the train," he said.
So this clearly isn’t just the old lady. It’s someone who works a low paid public facing job and doesn’t need this shit.
If old people AND customer service people are against you, you might be the problem.
“Correct how I was sitting” could literally mean ANYTHING. Maybe she wanted him to sit up straight, maybe he was “manspreading”, it’s really impossible to know from the description here.
If camera footage shows him taking up two seats or putting his feet up or something, fine, but stopping a train because someone “refuses to sit ‘properly’”? Seriously?
Yeah, we can conclude from the MTA workers actions that it probably wasn’t a posture or slouching issue - and that it was probably something much more common… Like having your feet up on the seats.
The MTA isn’t stopping a train because someone is slouching.
Which of those things was he doing?
Why choose, they’re all against the rules. The MTA decided which one, and he says himself he refused to change his position.
“I refused”
His words, not mine.
So you’re saying we don’t know that he actually was doing any of them, then.
MTA workers deal with 1000s of people everyday. They’re not singling people out on any grounds but whether you’re following the rules or not.
Those two bitches had bags on the seats in front of him…fuck you!
He should have complained to the MTA officer then. But they can have bags on their seats when they’re not sitting on them. You can put bags on the seat you’re sitting on, just not on a separate seat.
It’s one seat per passager.
Yeah! I mean sitting incorrectly in the train?? He’s lucky they didn’t shoot him on the spot!
Apparently having rules and accepting when the conductor asks you to follow them is just a thing in public transport etiquette:
What you’re missing is that the response was out of proportion. If I park my car in a street sweeping zone, they don’t cart me off to jail, they write a ticket.
No one was carted off to jail. He was removed from the train, released and told to get the next one.
Where do you people get this misinformation?
Reading comprehension: 0%
A ticket isn’t a free pass to keep breaking a rule.
The conductor called the police and stopped the train," he said.
Well there’s your problem, the conductor should have told this woman to do one. Let’s say that he had his feet up on a seat, or whatever, in what world do you stop the train service entirely for that.
Imagine grounding a plane for this.
Interrupting everyone else’s life because yours is inconvenienced, not even impacted, should not be allowed.
Entitled mess of a human
I am thinking she didn’t go to the conductor with the actual complaint. Instead, like the Central Park Karen, she probably came up with some horror story of the man assaulting her or some such. He noted, after all, that they didn’t even take her statement when arresting him (for no reason).
There’s an “aggressive” man on the train… each time we say something racist we feel in even greater danger. Halp.
Yeah, you’d just ask him to not do that, explain that it’s a rule …and that’d be that!
And if it’s bothering her so much, change train cars! Sit a few seats down. Get on another train.
Admittedly, this is harder when you don’t have robust public transit.
The way you get more robust public transit is people using it though (and voting for it). Enforcing rules in this works against that imo
Why should some old lady move because some young guy is breaking the rules. Why can’t she try to tell him then go tell the conductor when he refuses to obey the basic rules of public transport.
That sounds like a good way to approach the situation.
Ask the other rider to fix their behavior. If they don’t, ask the conductor to ask the other rider to fix their behavior. If they don’t, I don’t think you need to call the cops.
The conductor could just as much charge the rider some fee that can be posted in the rider policy of the train, in the train, in the ticketing app for the train, at the station, etc. This way the train owner/operator can collect some remedy for the rider’s violation of the rules to help fund remediating the rider’s impact to the train environment (like cleaning their specific seat when that’s usually outside the conductor’s responsibilities), including a markup if they want to add that.
Now, I don’t think charging fees will work for every violation. But I still think it’s a valid lever the train owner/operator could make use of instead of bringing the entire train.
If the rider refuses to pay up, then call the cops. Or, the conductor could also ask the rider in violation to exit the train at the next stop. That’s another option. If that fails, call the cops.
Additionally, if cops are needed, the conductor could call them and ask them to meet the train at one of the stops coming up. This way the arrival of the cops could be timed with the arrival of the train to the station. Minimizes impact to everyone else’s schedule, and ensures cops have access to the train since most of the time spent on a train is in between stations which often isn’t accessible by road.
I think there are ways to better manage this than to stop a train as soon as a conductor witnesses a violation and start a train only after cops arrive to that specific location and escort the rider violator off the train.
A reasonable take. Others in the thread have cited the rules call for a fine for infractions like this anyway.
I don’t like the headline. He has a name, you know, and it’s Alex O’keefe.
The headline makes it sound like he did something wrong too. Instead he was harassed because of a Karen
Idk to me it was clear he did nothing wrong. In that case it would have said “because he did X ans Y” instead of basically “because of a Karen”
Yeah, total bullshit.
the final form of a karen, an old/ elderly white lady.
Conveniently, the officer body cam footage is “not available”. Absolutely insane they are making it sound like it’s his fault the train is delayed.
Sitting? While black? That’s a paddlin’.
sitting menacingly, -COPs
He’s sitting right towards us!
“You’re not the minority anymore.”
It’s a code for “you’re in Trump America, now.”
It also makes 0 sense while still sounding racist, so definitely trumpian
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its also a codework, its okay for us to say the N-word with the hard R.
I’m sick of the police getting involved and actually acting when no explicit law has been violated. If a law isn’t violated, they should never ever put their hands on a citizen in any way. Detaining someone without actually arresting them should result in immediate firing of the police. If you can’t press charges, you shouldn’t act.
That’d require them to be educated about the law but it seems awfully convenient to keep them ignorant of it.
But then how could they arrest you for resisting arrest?
You watch the video? - They said to him stop resisting even though they hadn’t placed him under arrest. Cops abuse their power all the time. I am saying they have no right to handcuff you or even touch you or order you off a train unless you committed an actual crime that they can place you under arrest for. You shouldn’t be forced to leave a train like this if you haven’t broken any kind of standing law.
The police are now trained to say “stop resisting” for their body cameras, which provides the pretext for additional charges. They throw as many charges as they possibly can hoping one or two stick if it gets plead down.
I haven’t watched the video but I totally agree that it’s inappropriate to order him off the train in this instance. They can conduct their criminal investigation right there. The fact that these incidents are allowed to get to the police is the frightening part; that people who reported him need to go to jail, and the conductor should be at a minimum investigated.
they frame evidence all the time, either by making it up, or trying to use it as an excuse to escalate. i suspect the latter.
Sounds like they created the violation in this case. They threatened arrest for disturbing the peace if he didn’t comply and remove himself from the train. They are always able to manufacturer reason for detainment and threatening arrest.
So cops shouldnt be called when drunks and racists on planes get start yelling and delaying flights?
Like that Burger King guy? Cops just shouldn’t have been called? Do Americans just not understand egalitarianism any more? You’re all deranged.
Everyone gets the same rules, transport companies can kick you off, or get the police to detain-you-off the plane/train.
There’s literally thousands of videos of people being thrown of public transport, it happens EVERYDAY whenever anyone refuses to obey the rules.
Fucken, Americans are mentally ill, I swear. This shit is obvious in the rest of the world.
Drunk and Disorderly conduct is a crime. I didn’t say cops can’t be called - I said unless they are arresting you to charge you with a crime they shouldn’t be able to detain you, remove you from a train, or claim you are resisting. This ensures they are only intervening when an actual crime was committed. It puts them in a position to have to defend their initial arrest in court and not just harass people and get away with it because they didn’t technically arrest them - which is the case here. Assuming from your statement you aren’t from America so you don’t know how much police harass people outside of actual arrests here. They will ask you to comply without an arrest to whatever unreasonable demand they make. Then, if you don’t comply with something unreasonable, they will claim you were resisting, and then charge you with resisting. It’s designed to create a charge where there was none to begin with. Police do that all the time over here, especially to minorities.
Not what happened here though. He was taken off the train, released and told to get the next train.
Also, the video shows them saying “stop resisting.” They were attempting to do just what I said, but a lot of people started recording, and this guy started saying how famous he was so the police thought better of it. Without the bystander cameras and the fame of the person involved it likely would’ve been handled much different.
What exactly was the reasoning for taking him off the train that justifies it? Because an old woman didn’t like the way he was sitting? That is the only justification listed anywhere. Is that the only standard necessary to remove this man from his paid for train ride, not to mention police harassing him? Why is his much greater discomfort less important than that ladies? Why does that random old lady get to dictate anything? Why does the train conductor have no responsibility to this other paid customer - he just stops the train due to this old ladies discomfort that has no legal backing? I just can’t see a justification for the way this situation was handled.
He was refusing to obey the MTA rule of no feet on the seats:
Police responded to a complaint of a 31-year-old “disorderly passenger” on a train at Fordham Metro-North station in the Bronx when “a conductor reported a passenger occupying two seats had refused to remove his feet from one of the seats,” according to authorities.
Everyone’s defending this asshole like crazy. Y’all are mental. Broke ass nation.
Yeah, we’re so broken and mental for being against this kind bullshit police intervention given our recent history of black men being murdered by cops.
Why do I feel like your opinions would be different if these individual’s positions were swapped?
Black MTA workers kick white passangers off trains and call the cops if they’re refusing to obey the rules - literally every day.
If a white guy has his feet on the seats, and an old black man or woman comes and gets the black MTA worker to step in - and the white guy STILL refuses to sit up properly - the MTA worker is put in the position of saying *“okay the rules don’t apply to this one guy, you can refuse the rules, they’re meaningless” * or getting physically involved (which they’re not supposed to do), so the only resort if the passanger is still REFUSING the rules to the MTA worker’s face is to call the cops.
They’re low paid MTA workers, not bouncers at a KKK meeting. This shit goes down regularly this way, it’s just most of the time a “celebrity” isn’t involved. Some drunk asshole is.
Edit: Here’s a white MTA worker dragging a white guy off a train. Beligerent customers are an everyday thing. That’s how the public are. MTA worker punched in the face, after asking someone to get off the train… MTA worker sucker-punched at random.
Everyone’s defending this asshole like crazy.
Maybe because it should’ve been a matter for whatever passes for transport authority or the conductor/inspector and not the police.
Being an asshole isn’t a crime ya know…The conductor was looking the other way, the old lady made the conductor intervene, Okeefe CONTINUED to refuse.
So it was the MTA dealing with it, and Okeefe CONTINUED to refuse. Continued his personal stouch with the lady.
Well, the rules apply to all MTA passangers. MTA trains serve thousands of people each day, the MTA worker wasn’t picking him out. The conductor was leaving him alone until the old lady brought the conductor in, AND OKEEFE CONTINUED TO REFUSE.
So “Racist MTA” doesn’t work as a theory. It doesn’t fit the facts of what happened.
That’s what they’re saying. They’re saying that the police should need more than just the bare minimum investigation of a potential crime to remove you from transit. You’re saying that he was released as if the only two options were not taking him off the train and jailing him indefinitely.
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You resorting to ad hominem insteading of sticking to the facts and the arguments paints you in bad faith.
If you want upvotes next time, maybe don’t do that.
I don’t care about imaginary Internet points… And I’ve linked and quoted multiple articles. People don’t care for the facts, they’re stuck in political perspectives
People don’t read on Lemmy, yes.
You should know this if you post evidence.
If you EXPLAIN your evidence, and point out specific inconsistentencies with the majority’s beliefs, then that’ll fly further than shutting shit down because you’re pissed.
You want to do this fine, but I’m not here to argue about arguing. You can argue with people your way if you want.
Damn if we see segregation you owe me a trillion
Luckily he is American. If he was a legal migrant having been booked would be considered a visa offense and he could be sent to a concentration camp.
Luckily he is
Americanfamous.The usual story here for Americans is that they get arrested for resisting arrest and assulting a police officer and then get sentences to 10+ years in the local gulag.
Immigrants instead get sent to the camps for deportation.
He’s well enough known, there were enough cameras and he’s media/güey savvy enough to avoid the worst outcomes.
Without due process, even that doesn’t matter.
He will just be labeled “antifa” now, without proof. This is how fascism usually works.
wouldnt he still be “deported” to africa, because of his skin color, potentially.
Nah, we don’t deport people anywhere they might have tires to.
Based on his skin color this man is clearly Laotian, send him straight to Vientiane! He can go peddle his scripts by the Mekong! (I’m joking)
Jesus Christ. Probably gave the bitch a bit of nostalgia for the “good ol days”. Also, what seating position was he doing that she took offense to? Because I don’t think there’s any seating position that could be considered offensive.
Sitting while black probably.
For WASPs any position that isn’t upright, knees together, feet on the floor is disrespectful. Whether he was just slouching or maybe leaning over in the seat, who knows other than him.
And even if he was, who fucking cares? The entitlement to think you get control over how random strangers sit in public is crazy. The only official rule I could even think of to begin justifying this is to not lay down completely when there are no seats available, but nothing in the article indicates anything like that. And attempted arrest is an insane overreaction.
What is a WASP?
White Anglo-Saxon Protestant. It’s a term that’s typically used to refer to blue-blood old money New England types.
Maybe this is why we need humanoid robots. So bigots have a decoy to be shitty to.
Fuck man.
A separate video about the incident has been uploaded by the user, Nalae, on TikTok, where it has quickly gone viral, having been viewed over 160,000 times as of reporting.
Sigh. Where’s the video?
There isn’t much to it. Its up here:
The video does clear one thing up, which is that he was sitting in a single row, which means he wasn’t putting his feet on the seats in front of him like you’d do in a double row with seats in front of you (like some dude in another thread jumped to the conclusion to).
But that would mean less people viewing ads on the website!
“over 160,000 times as of reporting”?
What, do they think the number is gonna go back down somehow and make their reporting inaccurate?
No, but if they only said “has over 160,000 views” you know there’s going to be some pedant waiting to say “well ACKSHUALLY it has 300,000 views, why are they under-reporting it?”
Searched the article and not one video link. Fantastic.
Shit like this happens every fucking day. This is news because the victim is famous.
I feel for the MTA worker most of all, they probably see this shit all the time.
Really? I feel for the victim of racial discrimination.
Look at their other responses. KKK lost a klown.
MTA rules apply to all passengers.
Riders may not lie down or place feet on the seat of a train, bus or platform bench or occupy more than one seat. Riders may not place bags or personal items on seats.
https://www.mta.info/document/17001
It’s highly unlikely you can get kicked off without violating the rules, and it’s not disputed that how he was sitting was the issue (not who he was).
https://sopuli.xyz/comment/19242346
Calm down.
Doesn’t sound like they apply to all passengers equally.
Oh yeah, if someone brings attention to you doing it - it gets way more attention.
Same as breaking the rules anywhere. Schoolyard rules.
Do you really believe that? Do you believe that the conductor and the cops would’ve acted in the same way if he, a 30 year old black man, was complaining about how an old white woman is sitting? Would they have stopped the train and detained the old woman in your opinion?
You can literally watch videos and videos and videos of problem passangers being removed from planes, trains, and buses… Is it your first day online or something?
