A woman in Colorado has been arrested after police caught her with expIosives at a TesIa dealership, police said.

The 40-year-old suspect, Lucy Grace Nelson, was arrested on Monday after the Loveland Police Department launched an “extensive investigation” following a series of vandaIizations at the dealership in Loveland, Colorado.

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    Although it appeared first glance to be an explosive device in an awkward moment of enthusiasm, it’s actually just a Roman Celebratory Sparklemaker.

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    Just wait til someone invents the first practical incendiary drone that can be easily made on a consumer 3D printer.

    In principle, it’s quite simple. All a drone has to do is take off, travel to a fixed set of GPS coordinates, land, and then activate an incendiary of some kind. Maybe a thermite charge, maybe something simpler to set off.

    This tech already exists due to the Ukraine conflict. But to my knowledge, it’s never been packaged in a form that’s easily replicable by an average random person in their home. But I see no reason why it couldn’t be. And when it does, all Hell’s going to break loose.

    On the more class liberation side, it will make burning down the assets of the rich much, much easier and harder to stop. On the other hand, it will also make it easier for fascists to target those resisting fascism. You’re an activist of some sort. One night, a drone lands on your roof at 2 AM and sets fire to your house. Who did it? Who knows. Good luck finding out.

    Hell, on a large scale, this will make it possible for a single individual to cause a disaster on the scale of the firebombing of Dresden. Consider the extremely dry weather and accompanying fires in Los Angeles. That moment, when the city was dry as tinder and the winds were blowing strong. Imagine if at that moment, someone had decided to release a few thousand incendiary drones on the city. Maybe they saved them up, just for this purpose. Consider how valiantly the fire fighters there worked to protect Los Angeles. And now imagine an alternate history where at that moment 5,000 structure fires erupted simultaneously across the city, including multiples started on the roof of every fire station.

    The technology already exists. It’s just a matter of someone figuring out how to package it in an accessible form. When that happens, God help us all.

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      Cheap gps enabled drones are very plentiful on the internet. You don’t need to 3d print anything except maybe the parts to hold the bomb. Just need to reprogram them to have them go to a fixed point and trigger a relay with an explosive. It’s trivial, and the fact that it is not common for most people with the skills to do it is because they have a lot to lose if they are caught. Once you take away enough rights and liberties that smart techy people have nothing left to lose then you will see more remote drone attacks.

      This is the reason the federal government has been trying to ban drone companies like DJI, they are afraid of the cheap throw away bomb delivery vehicles.

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        Given the safety record, you could probably drive by and throw a ballpeen hammer at them

        2 am high-speed Molotov cocktail?

        There are plenty of low tech solutions to some problems.

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    Isn’t this exactly what negotiating with labor unions so workers have good quality of life was made to prevent?

    More Americans will become terrorists, and it’s no surprise. They have nothing to loose.

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    At first glance, from the thumbnail… I thought it was Christine Weston Chandler.

    What a twist that would have been.

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      From raping her mom to dimensionally merging Nazi brains with Tesla upholstery.

      Honestly, CWC becoming a freedom fighter wouldn’t be that weird on this timeline we’re on.

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    Ok, I need to explain this to people, but don’t blow up or damage Tesla’s at dealerships. Aside from the usual about being socially responsible, the dealers and Tesla loses money when cars can’t sell and are stuck on lots. Tesla can’t sell a dealership a new car if the dealership can’t sell a car and make space for a new one on their lot. But if you blow up or damage the cars, the dealership just claims from their insurance, they get the money as though they just sold a car, and they have lot vacancies, so Tesla can sell the dealership more stock.

    Let the swasticars just sit there and depreciate on the dealership floor. That’s the real way to fuck em.

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      Insurance isn’t a magic money machine that erases costs; insurance isn’t free money. This is the logic that results in thieves driving small mom and pop shops out of business. Someone will hold up a gas station thinking, “well, insurance will pay for it.” But every time a business makes a claim, their insurance premiums go up. And just like car insurance, if you make too many claims, eventually you’ll be dropped from coverage, or your premiums will become completely unaffordable. You simply become too great a risk for insurance to cover.

      Honestly, torching a Tesla dealership is likely the quickest way to get it shut down. If you just let the cars sit there, they’ll keep cutting the asking price until they sell. Teslas might be unfashionable, but plenty of people living paycheck-to-paycheck will ignore the bad optics if it means they get a hell of a deal on a new car.

      But if a dealership is burned to the ground? The dealer was probably already resenting being in the business before the arson attack. Most of these guys became Tesla dealers back when Elon had a very different reputation. But now they can’t just walk away; they have contracts, leases to pay, a franchise agreement, and a pile of inventory that won’t sell. Hell, they probably have once or twice contemplated burning the whole place down themselves just to get the insurance money. And now they have the perfect opportunity to walk away, without having to commit felony insurance fraud. Some random do-gooder just came by and did the criming for them. Sure, they could rebuild, but why? They have an insurance check for millions of dollars. They could spend that rebuilding, getting new inventory etc. But why? Why go to all that trouble, just to end up back selling cars people revile?

      I think most people in that situation, unless they were already die-hard MAGA types, would simply chose to take the win and walk away. Maybe they stay in the car business and open up a franchise with some other automaker. Maybe they get out of car sales all together. But there’s little reason to stick with Tesla.

      That’s the real value of arson right now. There are tons of Tesla dealers who would honestly probably welcome an arson attack against their dealership, as long as no one was in the building at the time. They could never say so publicly, but honestly, an arson against a Tesla dealership might be the best thing that ever happened to many of the dealership owners.

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      But if you blow up or damage the cars, the dealership just claims from their insurance, they get the money as though they just sold a car, and they have lot vacancies, so Tesla can sell the dealership more stock.

      This is only true if you look at events in a vacuum.

      Dealer makes insurance claim, gets money

      Not inaccurate, but the dealership also has to rebuild/shit down for a time after the event for safety reasons. And they’ll be paying more for their liability coverage, especially if they continue to sell cars that are targets for unhappy citizens.

      gets money back as if they sold it

      They may get the sticker/wholesale price for it, but they lose out on various incentives, manufacturer kickbacks, and any interest/financing fees as well.

      Have lot vacancies

      And a fucked up lot, requiring construction crews (which impede business) and probably extra insurance

      Tesla can sell more stock

      Eventually, but the loss in lot space and the delay in getting it back is going to hurt a lot more.

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        Not to mention that it will be increasingly difficult to retain employees if their workplace is a target. If McDonald’s started getting shot up/destroyed because Ronald was a mask-off nazi, I would be into another job ASAP.

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      I’ve heard the best thing people can do against Musk is to vandalise privately purchased Teslas. I’ve heard that will put mass fear in the market not to buy them.

      I’ve heard that vandalising commercially owned Teslas will only result in insurance payouts and more Teslas being made.

      I’ve heard that the best way to vandalise privately owned Teslas is to use spray paint, which is relatively easy to clean off (not hurting the owner too much) while being very media-affective.

      That’s what I’ve heard.

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        My dad used to prank people in the neighborhood by writing on their windows with soap. When they clean it off they have clean windows. If you don’t want to spray paint a car use brightly colored soap, possibly with glitter if you really want to be a bitch.

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      I don’t think these “dealerships” are independent. Pretty sure they are directly owned by Tesla.

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      People don’t want to fly planes because they’re falling out of the sky. A Tesla dealership explosion would’ve done some significant PR damage, and may keep people from visiting them.

      But, you’re right, it seems like Tesla is collapsing on its own without the need of terrorist attacks. But, the nonviolent Tesla graffiti is funny though.

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        it seems like Tesla is collapsing on its own

        Don’t worry, shareholders! Trump’s upcoming executive order will mandate all federal government vehicle fleets be replaced with Teslas.

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      If you get rid of the building only though and not the cars, that’s double damage.

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      Well, some dealerships should be blown up to ensure that all of them have insurance and that insurance is expensive.

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        And if Tesla dealerships are significantly higher risk their insurance will go through the roof.

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      And upgraded to federal charges. Kash Patel is spending government resources on this for his partisan buddy instead of rightwing extremists and insurrectionists.

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        “Instead of”

        Implies Patel would ever prosecute right wing criminals.

        He won’t, unless they piss off trump.

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          She used molotov cocktails and only did $5,000 in damage? I was really expecting to hear a few hundred Gs based on tesla’s prices and the cars I’ve seen go up in flames in the past.

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      Wow - great way to help our cause!

      All that’s going to do is make some insurance companies more money. If she’s gonna throw her life away she should’ve just gone after Elon lmao

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          Blowing up Teslas at a dealership gives both the dealership and Tesla more money, as well as makes them have to build another one.

          That’s a W for the wrong side, unless you just like seeing aimless destruction

          Edit: like if you really wanna blow shit up, go after Teslas that have already been bought. Make people hate owning them, insurance rates for them go up, etc. Much more effective

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            This is silly. There’s no sustainable way to profit from insurance claims. Whatever short term “profit” Tesla may get from a claim will be wiped out when the insurance companies raise prices to cover it. Insurance companies don’t have unlimited money.

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      In the eyes of the law a Molotov cocktail carries the same penalties as a pipe bomb, both “unregistered Destructive Devices”. It’s the ATF’s bailiwick so it’s not unusual that the feds are involved, strictly speaking.

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        Regarding Nazi property: if it can be turned against them, better; but if not, destruction is second-best.

        The loss of productivity and environmental damage of letting Nazis persist in any fashion far outweigh any value the objects hold on their own.

        The most value we can extract from that trash is the message it sends as it’s burning to the ground.

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    That “reporter” should be fired for using such inflammatory language. Word play absolutely intended.

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    It was’t explosives

    Nelson returned to Loveland Tesla while in possession of additional incendiary devices, along with materials attributed to vandalism

    Nelson was immediately arrested and booked into the Larimer County Jail after being charged with explosives or incendiary devices use during felony, criminal mischief and criminal attempt to commit a Class 3 felony, authorities said.