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    Come on lemmy, chill the fuck out with the conspiracy theories. This place is starting to feel like an infowars facebook group ffs

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      When Russia is involved it’s hardly a conspiracy theory. They are known to take out political opponents when it suits them.

      That being said, I will reserve judgement until there is an official cause of death.

      Edit: I didn’t realize so many were accusing US. Hadn’t seen that in other threads.

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      Yeah. She was American. Probably bad food or the ravages of a for-profit health industry.

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      This place still insists that Trump’s assassination attempt was a set up, a key point being “without looking it up, tell me who did it! That’s proof!”

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    A friend of the family told ABC News on Sunday that police believe the death was the result of a longstanding medical issue.

    Ah well that settles it. Russia did it. I don’t need any further evidence because my head is hollow just like the moon. Suck it Trumpers who’s stupid now?

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        Gravity is a natural phenomenon, and lead a natural element. So yeah, that’d be natural causes.

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      People with her facial features have heart issues (I can’t remember what it’s called) she was probably having a lot of stress from just watching the news.

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      However, officials are still awaiting a formal report as to the cause and manner of her death from the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner.

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    So, now you are killing political figures. Good work US. Such a nice way to go the same way as the third world cartel countries.

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    I wonder if it’s somehow related to open ai whistleblowers death. That was 3 months ago.

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      someone investigating trump is bound to get epsteined. if miss GHISLAINE spills the beans, shes good as dead, but she isnt talking.

      funny how the trolls immediately comment on this thread when it relates to trump.

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      TLDR The point of killing people at this stage is to remove obstacles to the fascist administration. A person who resigned on inauguration day isn’t an obstacle.

      I do not get where the users commenting about conspiracies and upvoting them are coming from with this line of reasoning. US doctors are notoriously bad at diagnosing women’s health problems as they are trained on almost exclusively male patients.

      It’s not a conspiracy. We are overpaying for the worst healthcare system in developed countries. The healthcare system is killing us.

      Not to mention this month’s bombing operation in Yemen was leaked to the Atlantic via the chief editor being invited to the Signal group. This administration doesn’t have the wherewithal to target people who resigned voluntarily or the ability to keep it secret in real time.

      https://archive.is/2025.03.24-164629/https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151/

      This person resigned. That’s what the fascists want. They want everyone who disagrees with them to exit the government so they can replace them with loyalists. Her resignation is not some bold act of resistance, it was more of the same, complying in advance.

      If a person stays in their position, openly defies the administration, appeals illegal attempts to have her removed, and then is killed that’s when we all need to be pointing out a potential conspiracy.

      This person got out of the way for fascists and then died because she was receiving substandard care for a known health condition because Republicans have been allowed to privatize everything at our expense for decades.

      She did great work as an US attorney. But she didn’t provide any resistance to the incoming administration. The bulk of meaningful resistance from inside the government has been from federal judges. These federal judges are the only ones would even merit this kind of treatment. They are the ones whose court orders are slowing down this administration.

      The Trump administration has already ignored one judge’s order to turn around planes to El Salvador. The Trump administration is trying to appeal to the Supreme Court to get these court orders overturned. If that doesn’t work they will likely ignore them.

      In fact, the Trump administration wants to remove universal injunction all together, so the courts will lose a crucial check on the executive branch.

      https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/03/trump-asks-supreme-court-to-step-in-on-birthright-citizenship/

      Harris characterized the district courts’ orders in the three birthright citizenship cases as “part of a broader trend.” Since Trump’s inauguration on Jan. 20, she complained, “district courts have repeatedly issued orders that superintend the internal operations of the Executive Branch by prohibiting the formulation of new policies.” But “[y]ears of experience have shown that the Executive Branch cannot properly perform its functions if any judge anywhere can enjoin every presidential action everywhere. The sooner universal injunctions are ‘eliminated root and branch,’” she concluded, “the better.”

      These federal judges are the people this administration would want killed because they are actively resisting the fascists in an impactful way. And they probably won’t bother to kill any judges in the short term. If the Supreme Court doesn’t make this problem go away the fascists will ignore the courts. edit: typos

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        The problem is simple. We’ll never actually know. And, for all your very eloquent arguments, the fuckwits at the top are kinda, well, fucking idiots, so no, the fact she isn’t a very logical target does not provide a convincing argument against foul play. In fact, the painted turd pretending to run the show clearly has a revenge fetish.

        That said, the real tragedy is how any family and friends surviving her have to watch her death get instantly politicized.

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          That said, the real tragedy is how any family and friends surviving her have to watch her death get instantly politicized.

          Yes, this is the problem with pretending there is any chance of a conspiracy being here. This is anger that should be directed at the healthcare system.

          The problem is simple. We’ll never actually know.

          Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. It’s not on me to prove a negative. The evidence we do have suggests she died from an underlying medical condition. That’s what we know, right now. If you want to support a different theory find some evidence to support it.

          And, for all your very eloquent arguments, the fuckwits at the top are kinda, well, fucking idiots, so no, the fact she isn’t a very logical target does not provide a convincing argument against foul play.

          It does though. By your argument’s reasoning, they cannot be so dumb to have chosen her as a target and so smart to have covered it up. If they were smart enough cover it up they would never have picked her in the first place and would definitely have gone for these federal judges. But since SCOTUS is stacked and they think they can ignore the courts they don’t seem to feel the need.

          In fact, the painted turd pretending to run the show clearly has a revenge fetish.

          It’s not clear that she had anything to do with any of Trump’s cases. Her wiki page lists these four:

          Prosecution of an MS-13 leader for multiple murders.[6]

          Indictments against Russian nationals for operating illicit cryptocurrency exchanges.[7]

          Historic war crimes charges against Russian soldiers for actions in Ukraine.[8]

          Israeli retaliation leak: Conviction of a former CIA analyst for leaking classified information.[9]

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Aber

          This administration isn’t capable of covering up a murder this convincingly and she isn’t even the kind of person Trump would want revenge against. She did nothing against him personally, which is his primary concern. edit: typo

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            Ummm, the longer your posts get, the more you make a for feel like you’re getting paid dude. Wow.

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              Look through my comment history. I want my fat check. Who is paying me for my hot takes and arguments?

              Also, an ad hominem in response to a request for evidence and refutation of your argument’s central point? That’s not convincing anyone.

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      I too remember how Jeffrey Epstein very conveniently killed himself under the last Trump administration. And all those Boeing whistleblowers recently.

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        No clearly all of the whistle blowers had unrelated health conditions that just so happened to take them out before they could speak in court. All coincidental.

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        It’s a tossup I think if Epstein killed himself. He was looking at a very unpleasant rest of his life. it makes sense for someone to commit suicide in that type of situation. It also makes sense for those in power to want him silenced. We’ll likely never know for sure.

        Taking him off suicide watch is also hard to tell between malice and incompetence.

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            When there are no consequences you can be openly cartoonishly evil because if there’s no answer to what are they gonna do about it?

            Then you might as well go full Christopher loyd in Roger rabbit

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      Yeah wow I heard this was better than Reddit but wow people are somehow dumber about political conspiracies here it’s impressive

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    The thing that bothers about this is the rampant speculation that is happening because of the state of American society right now. Will we ever know the truth for sure from the ME performing the autopsy given how extremely politicized things are right now? I don’t know.

    The article, and a few other articles I’ve read all indicate that she resigned from being a US Attorney before Trump had his second inauguration. People here have provided links to information that she was responsible for investigating Israeli and Russian people suspected of criminal activity. I remained incredibly skeptical that this wasn’t anything other than pure coincidence.

    Until I read a very interesting Substack article that goes a little deeper and makes the timing even more strange because she actually resigned THE DAY OF TRUMP’S SECOND INAUGURATION according to her Wikipedia. I got the Substack article from the “Talk” page on her Wikipedia.

    Usually when people resign they give a slight indication of where they are going to go to next. Claims are that she wasn’t forced out. But all of this together just doesn’t feel right – her exit from being a U.S. Attorney and her subsequent unfortunate passing just bothers me.

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      I assumed it was normal for people to resign when a new administration comes in. Especially if they are almost certainly getting fired if they don’t.

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    This is big. Uncomfortably big.

    She was investigating two Russian nationals involved in some pretty big fraud.

    Russia has no hard power. We know this. But they excel at the psychological game.

    She is a beautiful, white, blonde woman.

    They took advantage of “Missing White Woman Syndrome” to send a message. This is terrifying.

    The message is: “the US isn’t going to punish you. The Kremlin is.”

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      She was investigating two Russian nationals involved in some pretty big fraud.

      The word “was” is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.

      Yes, she was investigating fraud, when she was a US Attorney. She resigned on Jan 20th when Trump became President.

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      Could you imagine this happening under any former US president? We say it as a joke but Reagan’s corpse is really spinning in his grave right now…

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        Reagan put the corporatization (if that’s a word) and destruction of the middle class into overdrive, planting the seeds for Trump/Krasnov.

        I hope people piss on his grave while he’s rotating so all of him gets covered.

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    What will Himmler at the FBI do about it? The Kremlin is actively protecting their oligarchs in the USA and Krasnov will allow them free reign.

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        All the fucking Reichwingers and Putin Bots should join the Russian infantry. The reception on the front will be a blast.

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        Once people stopped caring for the truth, and the only way to get people to listen was saying “The government doesn’t want you to know this”…

        Yea liberal qanon except based around actual facts, and history. What ever sells the message. All politics will be done in memes and 15 second video clips from now on.

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        Krasnov is a euphemism for his blatant collusion. I don’t think people actually believe it…

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                  Is this a joke? Show me one present delivered without the parents involvement and maybe I’ll see the rest of your argument, assuming you have one. I know it’s not exactly confirmed by any authority but it’s pretty easy to see he’s doing everything Putin wants and there are obvious conflicts of interests, to say the least.

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      I was also trying not to be, yet this statement of bondi gave me the chills for whatever reasons…

      edit: Found out she recently worked on charging two russian nationalists in connection with operating billion dollar money laundering services

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        So, they (the Russians being investigated) likely had ties to Trump, Musk, or both? Get rid of her and dismantle the investigations with Trump’s own appointee, plus it installs another for his side.

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        That statement literally is a boilerplate.“somebody died” statement, why would that give you the chills?

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          Because . Think of it as a boilerplate statement if you want, but in this context, I find it disgusting and weird. She is the one who is currently erasing much of the life’s work of the deceased person she is supposedly paying respect to.

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              My apologies, I was just recalling what was my first reaction and didn’t thought it would get any real traction.

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        How could a generic AI written statement give you chills?

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            I’m with them, the response was the basic bitch “thoughts and prayers” public statement you expect from an official. Bondi is scum but that statement was a big nothing sandwich.

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              I don’t know, the person who dismantled the KleptoCapture programs, reallocated personnel and ressources previously dedicated to targeting Russian oligarchs towards drugs cartel, ended the foreign influence task force and reduced FARA enforcement publicly stating her “heart(!) and prayers go out to her family and friends” after the death of the most prominent figure involved in preventing and fighting foreign influences specially from Russia, is quite disturbing to say the least.

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      She started working in the office starting in 2009 as an assistant U.S. attorney, prosecuting financial fraud, public corruption, violent crime and child exploitation cases…

      Confirmed 2021 Stepped down from position this year 2025 January

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      Its a bit far fetched that Trump would be able to kill people Putin style but yeah.

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        Things are more fucked up than you think they are I think.

        I’ve dealt with some wild shit in my life and in the begining I had this denial where it was all surreal. After about 2 years of those surreal events not going away I realized the world really is heartless and there is no protection. From the bottom of the street to the president. Evil is all around us. I think the American Dream ideology desensitizes people to it and people are indoctrinated to believe American success has to do with a person being moral or “good”.

        In my personal life it’s like I realized regardless of government and police and teachers and preachers etc, chaos rules and war is constant if you are staying within reality. Most people leave reality via consumerism, and drugs and alcohol. Even today’s entertainment reality TV style politics is escapism. People choose sides and watch but that’s it. It’s like they use is as a fuel to pass time and give them a neuron boost.

        If a person detaches from that world of denial they can start to see a lot of people really aren’t there, they aren’t present. They just sort of go through the motions. You can see who is real. Authentically down to earth. And who is like a fiend on a bender. It’s really not much different then seeing someone drunk or methed out except that it is socially accepted, indoctrinated and the norm. You can see their actions are from something other than the internal universal source that powers themselves.

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          I never got that, the thinking that the rich and successful are good. I firmly believe that you don’t get rich unless you are prepared to do evil things. Even if it’s just cheating on your taxes. And in a country that claims itself christian…Didn’t Jesus say that it’s more difficult for a rich man to enter heaven than a camel can pass through the eye of a needle?

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          Love your comment. I felt the same but it was after 9/11 so its been a while. Evil is all around us, I agree with that. But you also have good in some people. They just arent interested in control and power, which is why the world feels evil.

          Im not American so I dont think of the American dream as more then necessary hope to cope in a society where you are supposed to identify with your title at work, and always wanting more. Its just a dream and often a nightmare to most people living in the US. That pressure to be successful because even your family cares about it must be difficult.

          Im definently into escapism myself. I started with computers in my teens to escape the daily life that felt meaningless. Became good at it, got good jobs. But Im still myself and I never became a npc unable to think for myself.

          But I do believe that it matters what we do here in this realm. There are a lot of evil people, but the good ones outnumber the bad ones with millions to one. They just dont have any power to change things.

          Most people still think they can vote and change things but you can ask anyone in their 50s how that works out for you… :)

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        Why? He doesn’t have to do it himself and all he has to do is get someone who can and will, and we know there are plenty of those types surrounding him.

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        Trump, the leader of the most powerful country in the world who is rapidly accelerating away from democracy into an autocracy? He could never.

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    So, will this be the American version of „fell from a window“? I wouldn’t be surprised and pretty much expect the Trump administration to act this way.

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      Probably still Russians who did this. The Trump administration will just help cover it up.

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        Never forget that during HitlerPig’s first administration, the Saudi’s wanted to kill dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi, who was living in America, and writing for the Washington Post.

        The US was in negotiations to sell billions of dollars in weapons to Saudi Arabia for the first time, with Kushner leading the talks. They didn’t want to derail the talks, so the administration made it clear that they wouldn’t interfere in the Khashoggi matter.

        He wanted to marry his fiance who was still in SA, so they lured him to their embassy in Turkey to sign paperwork, where they ambushed him, murdered him, dismembered him, and disposed of the body. We have footage of him going in, but never coming out. Instead, people left carrying suitcases, presumed to be his body parts. We also have audio of the actual murder.

        HitlerPig knew he was to be murdered, and they did absolutely nothing to warn him nor prevent it. In fact, they greenlighted the op because they didn’t want to derail their arms talks.

        It should also be remembered that the Saudis gave Kushner $2 billion after he went back into the private sector.

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      We need an autopsy that is unbias stat. If she was murdered. Then it redifines every GOP members role in this country. Their family should no longer be allowed in any school or grocery store. Starve them to death. They deserve it for their support. If they don’t believe in such, they’d speak to hanging Rubio for treason right now. Trump even claimed not remembering to sign the executive order. If Republicans claim the death sentence. Give it to them

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    If this is found out to be foul play and we don’t rise up we are so cooked! ( I know we are already cooked but come on people! )

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        Not really comparable situations

        EDIT: Or as it turns out, according to lemmy, murdering a pedophile with info is the same as murdering a US attorney